Were the Cell Jr.s playing-around against Vegeta & Trunks?

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Fearless Boo said:
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He's useless against Cell who should be able to beat Goku but he was confident about his training against Buff Cell.

Expected Cell > 50% Goku > Piccolo > Buff Cell/Trunks

Against Buff Cell: I must train in the ROSAT.
Against Expected Cell who is stronger than Goku: I'm useless. :idk
Nah. Piccolo is good at being able to see hidden powers, he knew he was useless from the beginning.
Against Expected Cell.
Yeah, so why did he enter to begin with? Piccolo knew what to expect and knew he was useless right-off the bat coming-out of the RoSaT.
 

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Fantastische Hure said:
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Nah. Piccolo is good at being able to see hidden powers, he knew he was useless from the beginning.
Against Expected Cell.
Yeah, so why did he enter to begin with? Piccolo knew what to expect and knew he was useless right-off the bat coming-out of the RoSaT.
Just because he was useless against Expected Cell doesn't mean he can't surpass Initial Cell which he was confident reaching if not surpassing that level. :idk
 

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Fearless Boo said:
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Against Expected Cell.
Yeah, so why did he enter to begin with? Piccolo knew what to expect and knew he was useless right-off the bat coming-out of the RoSaT.
Just because he was useless against Expected Cell doesn't mean he can't surpass Initial Cell which he was confident reaching if not surpassing that level. :idk
He wasn't confident, meng. I said this a million times already. Why don't you understand?

Piccolo is not on Initial Cell's level. He surpassed no Cell other than maybe at best Imperfect-Cell level.
 

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Fantastische Hure said:
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Yeah, so why did he enter to begin with? Piccolo knew what to expect and knew he was useless right-off the bat coming-out of the RoSaT.
Just because he was useless against Expected Cell doesn't mean he can't surpass Initial Cell which he was confident reaching if not surpassing that level. :idk
He wasn't confident, meng. I said this a million times already. Why don't you understand?

Piccolo is not on Initial Cell's level. He surpassed no Cell other than maybe at best Imperfect-Cell level.
Then why would he enter to the ROSAT if he can't surpass Semi Cell? That doesn't make sense at all especially whenever Piccolo trains, he always reach his expectation.

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Just look at his goal, if he can't surpass Semi Cell then what's the point of him entering the ROSAT? The way he said it implies that he need to train in ROSAT to reach that level or surpass it.
 

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HUEBR_Tapion said:
Piccolo >=< 50% FPSSjin Goku
Why did Vegeta not care for Piccolo at all, if he surpassed Goku's bench-mark power at that point? Which he intended to surpass, not Piccolo's power.
 

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Why would Vegeta intend to surpass Piccolo? Piccolo's got nothing to do with the rivalry between him and Goku.
Also, Piccolo is equal to 50% Goku, not more powerful imho.
 

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Fantastische Hure said:
Why did Vegeta not care for Piccolo at all, if he surpassed Goku's bench-mark power at that point? Which he intended to surpass, not Piccolo's power.
We never actually see the two interact before the Cell Games, so it's possible that Vegeta didn't know about Piccolo's strength until then.
 

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Mike said:
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Why did Vegeta not care for Piccolo at all, if he surpassed Goku's bench-mark power at that point? Which he intended to surpass, not Piccolo's power.
We never actually see the two interact before the Cell Games, so it's possible that Vegeta didn't know about Piccolo's strength until then.
Maybe, but if Piccolo had indeed reached a level close to 50% Goku or even surpassed it wouldn't that have been a good opportunity to show that? He wasn't considered relevant enough to do so.
 

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Maybe, but if Piccolo had indeed reached a level close to 50% Goku or even surpassed it wouldn't that have been a good opportunity to show that? He wasn't considered relevant enough to do so.
Which scene are you talking about here?
 

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Mike said:
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Maybe, but if Piccolo had indeed reached a level close to 50% Goku or even surpassed it wouldn't that have been a good opportunity to show that? He wasn't considered relevant enough to do so.
Which scene are you talking about here?
I mean an interaction between the two of them after Piccolo leaves the RoSaT, if Piccolo had been as relevant as 50% Goku they surely could have given us a hint.
 

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It's also worthy note Goku was expecting Cell's power to be higher than his FPSSJ, so him confirming Piccolo is trash to a power higher than his own doesn't say much imo.
 

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ahill1 said:
It's also worthy note Goku was expecting Cell's power to be higher than his FPSSJ, so him confirming Piccolo is trash to a power higher than his own doesn't say much imo.
OK, then let me ask this way:

What besides three panels of Piccolo standing (whatever he might have been doing, he was just standing) and maybe Cell's ambiguous line shows Piccolo even got all that high?
 

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Tenshinhan was standing too.
 

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Fantastische Hure said:
ahill1 said:
It's also worthy note Goku was expecting Cell's power to be higher than his FPSSJ, so him confirming Piccolo is trash to a power higher than his own doesn't say much imo.
OK, then let me ask this way:

What besides three panels of Piccolo standing (whatever he might have been doing, he was just standing) and maybe Cell's ambiguous line shows Piccolo even got all that high?

The fact that he's never shown being badly eaten up by the Cell Jrs. If you notice, all panels of the Cell Jrs fight are Goku, Yamcha, Krillin and Tien having their asses handed to them, but Piccolo is never shown, even once, being badly stomped like them. Also, there is a panel in the beginning of the fight where Piccolo is shown successfully punching his Cell Jr ike Vegeta and Trunks in the background:
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Tenshinhan was standing too.
And then he gets one-shotted, unlike Piccolo.
 

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I was using Tenshinhan to boost Piccolo's rating.
 

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Fantastische Hure said:
What besides three panels of Piccolo standing (whatever he might have been doing, he was just standing) and maybe Cell's ambiguous line shows Piccolo even got all that high?
There's also Trunks being surprised at Goku saying Piccolo was useless against Cell.
 

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Lol the infamous "sweat scene"
 

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ahill1 said:
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What besides three panels of Piccolo standing (whatever he might have been doing, he was just standing) and maybe Cell's ambiguous line shows Piccolo even got all that high?
There's also Trunks being surprised at Goku saying Piccolo was useless against Cell.
He was most likely being surprised by Goku's bluntness. He didn't even say something like "Even Piccolo is useless?!?!?!". Which would have helped this point much more.
 

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