Who are the top 10 strongest in the DragonBall universe right-now?

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SSJ4 Gogeta is still the strongest. Fuck Super.
 

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I don't know, but I prefer the idea of Gogeta being the ultimate being in all of existence. The final culmination of decades of hardship and training for two of the greatest fighters on earth.
 

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In terms of mortals?

I'd say Jiren > Kefla > Galu > Vegeta ~ Toppo > Freeza > Dyspo (infected by :shin level pussification) ~ Gohands > Faggots
 

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Mystic-Vegeta, you have a point, but IIRC I think I remember Goku saying he's going-off to train with Shenron too and 100 years have passed, so I'd say it's possible. Especially since he's like literally a God at the end of DragonBall GT.

To be honest, there's a bunch of ways this could be done. Maybe fusions can be included too and I almost forgot DragonBall GT, but that's because most don't seem to see them top-tier anymore. Sorry about that though.
 

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GT only isn't top-tier if you count Super, which I don't. Super is trash.
 

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Mystic said:
GT only isn't top-tier if you count Super, which I don't. Super is trash.
Honestly (very honestly) I can't even tell what makes DB-Super characters so high tier. I heard it so much but never got it. Is it because of all the universe-busting feats they are talking about or what? Because Super-Saiyan God Goku from Battle-of-Gods being > Super-Saiyan 3 Vegetto does not really warrant them being higher than DragonBall GT top-tiers or even mid-tiers like Inital Super-Saiyan 4 Goku. All from what I heard anyway, since I never really got to watch DragonBall GT.
 

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GT isn't strongest for reasons it provided itself.

For example, Golden oozaru Baby couldn't blow up a planet and Vegeta at 18,000 could. Clearly this must mean base Super Baby and SSJ3 Goku are under Raditz :et
 

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Super>GT

lets not fuk around and even say GT had any good but Super 17 era
 

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Fantastische Hure said:
Mystic said:
GT only isn't top-tier if you count Super, which I don't. Super is trash.
Honestly (very honestly) I can't even tell what makes DB-Super characters so high tier. I heard it so much but never got it. Is it because of all the universe-busting feats they are talking about or what? Because Super-Saiyan God Goku from Battle-of-Gods being > Super-Saiyan 3 Vegetto does not really warrant them being higher than DragonBall GT top-tiers or even mid-tiers like Inital Super-Saiyan 4 Goku. All from what I heard anyway, since I never really got to watch DragonBall GT.

Not only that, but nobody in GT displayed power surpassing SSJ Vegetto until Super Baby 1, and the GT Special's supplementary material states Vegetto's power in Z (presumably his SSJ2/3) is >= SSJ4 Goku. Goku's also displayed power in UI that's dozens of times greater than his SSJB self currently (and that SSJB is in turn many times above SSJB at debut which was > SSJG Goku in BoG).
 

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Idea of Gaslight said:
GT isn't strongest for reasons it provided itself.

For example, Golden oozaru Baby couldn't blow up a planet and Vegeta at 18,000 could. Clearly this must mean base Super Baby and SSJ3 Goku are under Raditz :et
In DB-Super Goku gets one-shotted by a ray-gun and Kuririn almost beats him as a Super-Saiyan Blue. :wtf :wtf :wtf
 

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