Who are the top 10 strongest in the DragonBall universe right-now?

[Papasmurf]

GT isn't strongest for reasons it provided itself.

For example, Golden oozaru Baby couldn't blow up a planet and Vegeta at 18,000 could. Clearly this must mean base Super Baby and SSJ3 Goku are under Raditz

In DB-Super Goku gets one-shotted by a ray-gun and Kuririn almost beats him as a Super-Saiyan Blue.

Bullets got haxed to the point you could probably make Piccol0 Daimao shit his pants by pointing a revolver at him 2 2

Hell, a well-aimed machine gun bullet will devastate all of Namek with all the bullet feats in Supa

 

[Fantastische Hure]

GT only isn't top-tier if you count Super, which I don't. Super is trash.

Honestly (very honestly) I can't even tell what makes DB-Super characters so high tier. I heard it so much but never got it. Is it because of all the universe-busting feats they are talking about or what? Because Super-Saiyan God Goku from Battle-of-Gods being > Super-Saiyan 3 Vegetto does not really warrant them being higher than DragonBall GT top-tiers or even mid-tiers like Inital Super-Saiyan 4 Goku. All from what I heard anyway, since I never really got to watch DragonBall GT.

Not only that, but nobody in GT displayed power surpassing SSJ Vegetto until Super Baby 1, and the GT Special's supplementary material states Vegetto's power in Z (presumably his SSJ2/3) is >= SSJ4 Goku. Goku's also displayed power in UI that's dozens of times greater than his SSJB self currently (and that SSJB is in turn many times above SSJB at debut which was > SSJG Goku in BoG).

That's fair enough (the first sentence). Can we take the Guide-Book seriously on this? Was that written by Toei? I don't know. I wouldn't put it past Toei to be this stupid, but who knows.

Yeah, but I also mean even as far back as Battle of Gods or Fukkatsu No F, people were saying that Gogeta already couldn't measure up IIRC.

 

[SSJPoo]

Can we stop making Gogeta in every fukin topic u autastics

 

[Fantastische Hure]

GT isn't strongest for reasons it provided itself.

For example, Golden oozaru Baby couldn't blow up a planet and Vegeta at 18,000 could. Clearly this must mean base Super Baby and SSJ3 Goku are under Raditz

In DB-Super Goku gets one-shotted by a ray-gun and Kuririn almost beats him as a Super-Saiyan Blue.

Bullets got haxed to the point you could probably make Piccol0 Daimao shit his pants by pointing a revolver at him 2 2

Hell, a well-aimed machine gun bullet will devastate all of Namek with all the bullet feats in Supa

I'd everything in DragonBall Super is haxed, why can't the same go for DragonBall GT? DBGT Glass and building Goku was afraid to jump over > Ray-Gun

 

[Papasmurf]

Honestly (very honestly) I can't even tell what makes DB-Super characters so high tier. I heard it so much but never got it. Is it because of all the universe-busting feats they are talking about or what? Because Super-Saiyan God Goku from Battle-of-Gods being > Super-Saiyan 3 Vegetto does not really warrant them being higher than DragonBall GT top-tiers or even mid-tiers like Inital Super-Saiyan 4 Goku. All from what I heard anyway, since I never really got to watch DragonBall GT.

Not only that, but nobody in GT displayed power surpassing SSJ Vegetto until Super Baby 1, and the GT Special's supplementary material states Vegetto's power in Z (presumably his SSJ2/3) is >= SSJ4 Goku. Goku's also displayed power in UI that's dozens of times greater than his SSJB self currently (and that SSJB is in turn many times above SSJB at debut which was > SSJG Goku in BoG).

That's fair enough (the first sentence). Can we take the Guide-Book seriously on this? Was that written by Toei? I don't know. I wouldn't put it past Toei to be this stupid, but who knows.

Yeah, but I also mean even as far back as Battle of Gods or Fukkatsu No F, people were saying that Gogeta already couldn't measure up IIRC.

Pr sure that was because some V-Jump statement or something said Beerus could destroy a galaxy in one shot iirc

It was an excerpt from their own animation comics for the DBGT Special so I assume someone involved with Toei wrote the statement

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Not only that, but nobody in GT displayed power surpassing SSJ Vegetto until Super Baby 1, and the GT Special's supplementary material states Vegetto's power in Z (presumably his SSJ2/3) is >= SSJ4 Goku. Goku's also displayed power in UI that's dozens of times greater than his SSJB self currently (and that SSJB is in turn many times above SSJB at debut which was > SSJG Goku in BoG).

That's fair enough (the first sentence). Can we take the Guide-Book seriously on this? Was that written by Toei? I don't know. I wouldn't put it past Toei to be this stupid, but who knows.

Yeah, but I also mean even as far back as Battle of Gods or Fukkatsu No F, people were saying that Gogeta already couldn't measure up IIRC.

Pr sure that was because some V-Jump statement or something said Beerus could destroy a galaxy in one shot iirc

It was an excerpt from their own animation comics for the DBGT Special so I assume someone involved with Toei wrote the statement

That's idiotic though and makes no sense. We know that because the series apparently states other-wise. Maybe he meant a potential Vegetto fusing then and there but in base.

 

[Papasmurf]

Toei never made sense. I remember even in BoG SSJ/2 Vegeta lasted longer than SSJ3 Goku even pre-rage because of "fighting skill" lmao

 

[SSJPoo]

what but beerus 100% tho vs Jiren

 

[Fantastische Hure]

what but beerus 100% tho vs Jiren

beerus can hold off for a while, then jiren overwhlems

 

[Papasmurf]

I'm just glad Beerus finally got surpassed by a non-angel within our lifetimes. I thought at the rate we were going he was going to be 100x SSJB Vegetto while using a fraction of his power 2 2

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Kenshi, how'd you say Super-Saiyan 4 Gogeta and Omega-Shenron compare to DB-Super characters? Do they even make it low-tier (low-tier as-in what we've seen so far)?

 

[Papasmurf]

I think Gogeta would get his ass handed to him by BoG Beerus

 

[Fantastische Hure]

I think Gogeta would get his ass handed to him by BoG Beerus

Why? He's also >>> Super-Saiyan 3 Vegetto like Beerus. BTW, BoG Beerus is the same ain't he? Unless,you mean the percentage he used to fight God Goku.

 

[Mystic]

Super>GT

lets not fuk around and even say GT had any good but Super 17 era

Thanks for sharing your autism with us, Frankie.

 

[Papasmurf]

BoG Vegetto is >>>> Boo arc Vegetto though. And Beerus gets extra points for the galaxy statement and universe busting feats in Super's BoG storyline

 

[SSJPoo]

Super>GT

lets not fuk around and even say GT had any good but Super 17 era

Thanks for sharing your autism with us, Frankie.

Thank my dad with a rare double xtra chromosome

ya mistake shoulda been swallowed fuk

respect ur elders

 

[SSJPoo]

Super>GT

lets not fuk around and even say GT had any good but Super 17 era

Thanks for sharing your autism with us, Frankie.

I only speek the language in my environment

which seems to be retarded

 

[Fantastische Hure]

BoG Vegetto is >>>> Boo arc Vegetto though. And Beerus gets extra points for the galaxy statement and universe busting feats in Super's BoG storyline

The difference between the two Vegettos is only so huge if you'd go by BoG Goku > Ultimate Gohan.

 

[SSJPoo]

BoG Vegetto is >>>> Boo arc Vegetto though. And Beerus gets extra points for the galaxy statement and universe busting feats in Super's BoG storyline

The difference between the two Vegettos is only so huge if you'd go by BoG Goku > Ultimate Gohan.

A+ for effort my special student

 

[Fantastische Hure]

BoG Vegetto is >>>> Boo arc Vegetto though. And Beerus gets extra points for the galaxy statement and universe busting feats in Super's BoG storyline

The difference between the two Vegettos is only so huge if you'd go by BoG Goku > Ultimate Gohan.

A+ for effort my special student

Or you can put Goku in a random place that makes no sense. Your choice.