Who is stronger??

[babaGAReeb 2]

cell by far

broly lost to a single punch from really tired super saiyan goku + a tiny tiny tiny amount of energy from his nearly dead friends lol

 

[kriss-]

Your type of reasoning creates an absolute paradox. Gathered Chi energy from other people has never scaled linearly in the movies or GT.

 

[babaGAReeb 2]

well thats true, but this same gathered chi logic is the very reason that cell stomps broly even if hes more than twice as strong as him

cell makes a few cell juniors, gathers some chi and then makes broly explode by poking him

 

[Pakl]

Movie 10 Gohan is much stronger than his Cell Games incarnation, and even Goku/Majin Vegeta SSj2. Hence why Broly is the owner of power surpassing Goku.

Only a scrub would think otherwise.

No he is not... If anything the Daizenshuu proves so

 

[kriss-]

well thats true, but this same gathered chi logic is the very reason that cell stomps broly even if hes more than twice as strong as him

cell makes a few cell juniors, gathers some chi and then makes broly explode by poking him

That's illogical.

Cell never did that against Gohan and he wouldn't do it here.

 

[babaGAReeb 2]

why would he use movie logic in a canon fight lol

against gohan he cant use it cause gathered chi logic wont work in a manga fight
but against a poor quality movie character like broly, it will oneshot him

 

[kriss-]

The combined energy of a few fighters turned Goku into a Saiyan God. Even in the Canon Universe it doesn't work like the way you're arguing it does. If the plot demands it, gathered Chi can defeat anybody.

 

[babaGAReeb 2]

that was a ritual lol

if gathered chi logic worked goku would just ask everyone to share their energy with him and then murder cell by breathing at him
but this isnt a movie and it doesnt work and goku just dies horribly instead

 

[kriss-]

The plot doesn't work like that. It also says 'the combined strength of six Saiyans', in Herms fact checker.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Movie 10 Gohan is much stronger than his Cell Games incarnation, and even Goku/Majin Vegeta SSj2. Hence why Broly is the owner of power surpassing Goku.

Only a scrub would think otherwise.

What makes him stronger than them?

 

[kriss-]

He's much stronger than he was back then, and the feat of Gohan base fighting evenly with Broly and it not being contradicted as Toei logic.

Broly SSJ (M10) =/= Broly Lssj (M6) =/= Gohan Base (M10)

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

He's much stronger than he was back then, and the feat of Gohan base fighting evenly with Broly and it not being contradicted as Toei logic.

Broly SSJ (M10) =/= Broly Lssj (M6) =/= Gohan Base (M10)

''Back then'' refers to M8 where he was much weaker than his CG counterpart.

 

[kriss-]

And he still fought evenly with a Super Saiyan in Base.

GOML.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

And he still fought evenly with a Super Saiyan in Base.

GOML.

Just another inconsistency from Toei. Unless you think his base form is stronger than his MSSj counterpart.

 

[Pakl]

This hax argument was debunked

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

שדך לא לעורר ויכוח pakl

 

[kriss-]

And he still fought evenly with a Super Saiyan in Base.

GOML.

Just another inconsistency from Toei. Unless you think his base form is stronger than his MSSj counterpart.

It's an inconsistency to YOU. But the feat is there. Feats are absolute.

 

[Mr. Popo Fan]

Cell because I like him more

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

And he still fought evenly with a Super Saiyan in Base.

GOML.

Just another inconsistency from Toei. Unless you think his base form is stronger than his MSSj counterpart.

It's an inconsistency to YOU. But the feat is there. Feats are absolute.

Feats shows that Base Gohan >>> SSJ Kids do you believe that? Or how about Base Goku against Cooler?

 

[kriss-]

Sure why not?

It's movie logic and it doesn't have to make cents.