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Toriyama sucks
Who is the greatest genius out of these 3?
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Nobuo Uematsu
Also I spent ages trying to find this topic, because I thought it was in the anime section.
He's a legend, but I think Tajiri is immediately out. Pokemon is huge and was unique in some ways (like using the link cable, the whole idea of catching monsters, although there's a little similarity to Megami Tensei/Persona), but it's not really the foundation for an entire genre like DB or Zelda/Mario/Donkey Kong were.
Toriyama also did art for games, even if his art definitely doesn't have a lot of variety (so many characters look like a DB reject). Miyamoto worked on top-quality games for vastly different consoles (2D consoles to 3D), but I don't know how heavily involved he was in the process of making the games. With Toriyama it's more simple - he just had to come up with and draw a story, whereas with making games there are so many different parts to it that I can't easily know what Miyamoto actually did. Having said that, games being way more complex than manga I think makes being heavily involved in their development and design more impressive. Novels have existed for millennia, and while Toriyama wrote a good story and also was better than maybe anyone at drawing action sequences, he took a lot of inspiration from other stories and wasn't having to basically invent a new art form, like a pioneering game designer does. But maybe a game expert would come and say Miyamoto's games weren't wading into unchartered territory as much as I'm thinking. But I'm going for Miyamoto. Rename the forum to MarioZelda forum.
Also I spent ages trying to find this topic, because I thought it was in the anime section.
He's a legend, but I think Tajiri is immediately out. Pokemon is huge and was unique in some ways (like using the link cable, the whole idea of catching monsters, although there's a little similarity to Megami Tensei/Persona), but it's not really the foundation for an entire genre like DB or Zelda/Mario/Donkey Kong were.
Toriyama also did art for games, even if his art definitely doesn't have a lot of variety (so many characters look like a DB reject). Miyamoto worked on top-quality games for vastly different consoles (2D consoles to 3D), but I don't know how heavily involved he was in the process of making the games. With Toriyama it's more simple - he just had to come up with and draw a story, whereas with making games there are so many different parts to it that I can't easily know what Miyamoto actually did. Having said that, games being way more complex than manga I think makes being heavily involved in their development and design more impressive. Novels have existed for millennia, and while Toriyama wrote a good story and also was better than maybe anyone at drawing action sequences, he took a lot of inspiration from other stories and wasn't having to basically invent a new art form, like a pioneering game designer does. But maybe a game expert would come and say Miyamoto's games weren't wading into unchartered territory as much as I'm thinking. But I'm going for Miyamoto. Rename the forum to MarioZelda forum.
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Super Mario 64 absolutely changed the game, as did Ocarina of Time (edit: ah, but Miyamoto was already not directing Zelda by OOT. He's credited as the Producer but not sure how much input he had, seeing as how he was also credited as the Producer on Pokemon Red/Blue and allegedly had very little). Probably Super Mario Bros too but I'm less versed on that.
edit2: at a glance it seems he had a lot of say in OOT.
edit2: at a glance it seems he had a lot of say in OOT.
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You-kai-Watch ripped-off Pokemon.
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@Warmmedown , what about all the monster-themed stuff that came-out after, like Digimon, Monster-Rancher (another series I didn't mention) & stuff.
