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[SIAD]

MUI Goku wins easily because Shin only said that maybe Vegetto SSJB is> Beerus. For while Toppo declared that Jiren> Vermoud and the latter is at the level of Beerus.

  MUI Goku easily surpassed Jiren (FP), until he arrived at Más Álla de Los Límites and increased his power. I know that Whis only stated that Jiren increased his speed, but apparently also increased his power, since Jiren (More of the Limits) resisted much better the blows of MUI Goku, than when he was only FP.

  How powerful do you expect Broly to be in the Movie vs. Whis?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

That matchup is pure speculation, though I doubt Broly will have the power or skill to surpass Whis when promotional material only ranks him slightly above the Hakaishin.

Beyond Limits SS4 Goku (Z) VS Gohan Boo
- Goku gets the same boost he got from going beyond his limits against Yi Xing Long. He can't use the Ryu-ken but can use the 10x Kamehameha.
- If Goku wins, make it the berserk Gohan Boo from the anime. If Goku loses, make it Gotenks Boo.

 

[KyuubiAhri]

10x Kamehameha never seemed to be anything special Goku wins against Buuhan but loses to berserk Buuhan

Jiresu (potara fusion of Jiren and Merged Zaasu) vs Daishinkan

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Daishinkan is practically featless, so placing him any higher than 2x Whis is highly unnecessary right now. Whether or not this is the anime or manga, the Potara boost combined with Zamasu's immortality allows him to win.

Base Goku (Cell Games) VS #17

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Goku one shots. He's about as strong as Yakon, who scares Kaioshin. Kaioshin by himself is far more powerful than Piccolo, who was dead even with #17 before training for a year inside Rosat.

Android Arc Piccolo vs Freeza, tanking contest.
~ Piccolo stands an allows Freeza to land a clean shot in him, à la Vegeta on #19. How good can Piccolo tank him?

 

[SIAD]

I think Piccolo would hurt a little.

Chōbakuretsumaha of Piccolo (TB23) runs the Guantalete of DBZ.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Considering V-Jump implies the amp of the Super Kamehameha is the same at the 23rd TB with its rating of 910, Piccolo's Chobakuretsumaha would likely be at ~920 or so. However, it stops at Weighted Piccolo/Goku due to their superior durability being even greater than 5 years prior.

Choshinsui Kuririn VS 100% Old Piccolo Daimao
- 22nd TB Kuririn gets the same boost as Goku, including basic Ki sensing. He also has the Black Kinto'un from the filler with Taopaipai to assist him.
- Both are in character. Fight takes place at King Castle, with the same distance Goku and Piccolo started at.
- If Kuririn wins, have him face Initial Prime Daimao.

 

[SIAD]

I have a tremendous distance between Goku (Pre Choshinsui) on Krillin (TB22). In TB 22 Goku could defeat Krilin with extreme ease. Then he got 2 Zenkai Powers.

  Therefore I have Krilin barely stronger than Piccolo Daimao Old (40%) and would lose very easily against Piccolo Daimao Old (100%).

The possibility that Freezamite says Future Trunks Base (First Rosat)> Freezer 100% (Namek) vs the possibility that Palk says Broly LSSJ (M8) is> Goku SSJ (Boo)?

 

[SIAD]

Well, it's like putting an Almighty vs. another Omnipotent.

  Jiren (More Álla de los Límites) runs the guantalete

1.- Jiren (FP) x1.05
2.- Jiren (FP) x1,1
3.- Jiren (FP) x1,15
4.- Jiren (FP) x1,2.

  Jiren (More Álla de los Límites) recovers after each fight.

  These are from the Anime.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Considering he went from getting utterly stomped to fighting even with Goku, I'd say he gets up to 4, if not clearing.

Super Kaioken Goku (Freeza Arc) VS SSJ Goku (Pre-Rosat, healthy)

 

[SIAD]

I have Goku (Arc Android) more than twice as powerful as Goku (Namek). so Goku SSJ (Arc Android) wins.

  Merged Zamasu (Manga) vs Vegetto Base (Manga)?

  Both are healthy.

Who is more powerful?

  Remember that Merged Zamasu thought he would win without much trouble after fighting for an hour against a Vegetto Base (Weakened). Also remember that Zamasu is Semi Immortal and has regeneration.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

I'd still say Zamasu wins. I doubt he was fully banking on his immortality to defeat Vegetto when he'd just been told mortal things such as Potara time limit still applied to him and we aren't given a clear scale on how much Vegetto had weakened. Zamasu also has far more variation in his techniques.

FP Jiren VS Champa
- Manga versions of both.
- ToP rules apply.

 

[Keedounan]

I'd still say Zamasu wins. I doubt he was fully banking on his immortality to defeat Vegetto when he'd just been told mortal things such as Potara time limit still applied to him and we aren't given a clear scale on how much Vegetto had weakened. Zamasu also has far more variation in his techniques.

FP Jiren VS Champa
- Manga versions of both.
- ToP rules apply.

Judging by Belmod's performance in the battle royale, which was arguably the best along with Beerus', he's probably stronger than Champa. At very least, he doesn't seem to be much weaker than Beerus or Quitela. Jiren is even stronger than him.

That, along with better stamina that comes with being a hardworking fighter instead of the lazy bum that Champa is, as well as ToP rules (which restricts lethal techniques like Hakai), Jiren would most likely win.

SQ

 

[Papasmurf]

Jiren rapes for reasons mentioned above.

BoG Beerus (movie) 100% vs. True Golden Freeza (manga)

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Since True Golden Freeza seems to be on PSSB tier, Boris gets wrecked.

Ultra Instinct GAINZ Tsuru Sennin runs a Super Manga Gauntlet
- Tsuru Sennin gets the same training gains that Roshi did between the start of Z and the ToP in the manga, including his perfect counters and psuedo-UI.

 

[Keedounan]

Since True Golden Freeza seems to be on PSSB tier, Boris gets wrecked.

Ultra Instinct GAINZ Tsuru Sennin runs a Super Manga Gauntlet
- Tsuru Sennin gets the same training gains that Roshi did between the start of Z and the ToP in the manga, including his perfect counters and psuedo-UI.

He probably gets up to Beerus (at least) or the Angels (at most) thanks to his pseudo UI. The real deal is always better than the rip-off.

Complete UI Goku and FP Jiren VS The Hakaishins
-Manga version
-Unlimited time limit for Goku
-Fight in two rounds.
-The Hakai is restricted for the Hakaishins (first round only).

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Considering the latest movie and its promotional material suggesting a chain of Broly ~ Beerus > FP Jiren, I'd say he and Goku likely won't be above all the other Hakaishin seeing as how nothing solidly points to Belmod being above most of the Hakaishin when he spent most of the battle royale playing possum. Quitela should be able to beat them in both rounds, as well as perhaps Rumoosh given how impressive his roar and charge were treat. Goku and Jiren should win the rest of the round 1 battles, though Jiren may lose about half of the round 2 battles due to having no solid counter for Hakai and would only have a certain victory against Sidra as well as maybe Iwan and Arak (Goku would still gain the same victories as round 1 due to having Hakai).

SSJ Vegeta (What-If) runs a Cell Arc Gauntlet
- This is Vegeta from the What-If Scenario in Raging Blast in which he defeated SSJ Goku, Gohan and Future Trunks from around the time of Mecha Freeza's death consecutively whilst in base.

 

[Papasmurf]

He stomps everybody until post-RosaT Piccolo imo.

SSJBE Vegeta (manga) vs. SSJG Vegetto (manga)

Time limit applies.

 

[KyuubiAhri]

Jiren wins. He has better stamina than champa and is stronger


Super bojack vs Full power perfect cell

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Cells wins easily. Bojack isn't that much higher than SSJ Gohan.

SSJG Raditz runs the Gauntlet

Ritual by Saiyan Saga Vegeta & Nappa & Saiyan Saga Goku (post-Kaio-training) & Saiyan Saga Gohan (post-training) & Tarble