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Goku still wins. The guidebook entry of Rezun and Rakasei having battle powers of 7,600 isn't contradicted by anything and the two were able to beat Ten and Chaozu fairly easily.

10% SSB Vegeta VS Dyspo
- Manga versions of both.
 

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Hard to tell.. The manga doesn't imply a huge gap between SSjin to SSjin Blue.. I think Dyspo can win.

Ultimate Gohan vs Buff Boo
 

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I'd say Gohan should be stronger, since I don't see the statement of Boo getting significantly stronger to imply a stomp level difference that Gohan had over his previous self, though Boo would still likely win by wearing Gohan down due to his regeneration.

Jiren (Powered up VS Hit) VS Ultimate Gohan (VS Kefla)
- Manga versions of both.
 

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I would say that Ultimate Gohan wins, since Vados declared that Kefla SSJ was the most powerful character in his debut and this was after Jiren did his Power Up against Hit.

  Vegeta PSSJB (Current) vs Goku PSSJB (Vs Merged Zamasu)?
 

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SIAD said:
I would say that Ultimate Gohan wins, since Vados declared that Kefla SSJ was the most powerful character in his debut and this was after Jiren did his Power Up against Hit.

Not necessarily. Vados only said that Kefla might be unmatched, so she's actually not sure if she could beat Jiren. She must be at least close to the power he has shown against Hit.

Vegeta PSSJB (Current) vs Goku PSSJB (Vs Merged Zamasu)?

Vegeta should have surpassed Goku as he was against Merged Zamasu by the time he took his training.

SSJ2 Kefla VS SSJBE Vegeta
-Manga version for both.
-SSJ2 has the same boost for Kefla has it had for her anime counterpart.
 

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Jiren may have said SSBE Vegeta was superior to all but UI Goku, but it's not as if he placed them in the same league since he casually stomped Vegeta whilst powered up against UI Goku in the same chapter, so Vegeta doesn't need to be massively above Psuedo Kaioken Goku. That said, it's hard to say given that Kefla's SS2 boost seems to be lower than most, but I'd still say she'd likely hold the advantage.

Super #21 runs the Super Manga Gauntlet
- #21's good and evil sides fuse in a manner similar to the #17s, providing the same boost they did for Super #17.
- If #21 solos, have her face the Super Anime Gauntlet.
 

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Captain Cadaver said:
Jiren may have said SSBE Vegeta was superior to all but UI Goku, but it's not as if he placed them in the same league since he casually stomped Vegeta whilst powered up against UI Goku in the same chapter, so Vegeta doesn't need to be massively above Psuedo Kaioken Goku. That said, it's hard to say given that Kefla's SS2 boost seems to be lower than most, but I'd still say she'd likely hold the advantage.

Super #21 runs the Super Manga Gauntlet
- #21's good and evil sides fuse in a manner similar to the #17s, providing the same boost they did for Super #17.
- If #21 solos, have her face the Super Anime Gauntlet.

Even though the two #21s have a much closer power gap than the two #17s, making it a much more effective fusion, they're still high SSJ-tier character, so I don't think the power of their fusion alone will be enough to win both gauntlets. With that said, I can see Super #21 clearing this by abusing her Hungry Beam (which was at its most effective in Android 21 arc, since just absorbing a battered Cell was enough to become stronger than her Super Warrior arc incarnation, who absorbed many characters, including Cell), Connoisseur Cut/Mimicry and the Energy Absorption that comes with the fusion, preferably starting with fodders and increasingly going higher in the pecking order. That's, of course, assuming her hunger doesn't get in the way of her intelligence, which caused her to take pretty dumb decisions that eventually led to her demise.

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Vegeta PSSJB (Current) vs Goku PSSJB (Vs Merged Zamasu)?

Goku in MSsjB form is equal to Vegeta's MSsjB form. MSsjB Vegeta was stated to be "on par" with ToP MSsjB Goku. Also Vegeta said thet are equals.

So at best MSsjB Vegeta = MSsjB Goku (Vs Merged Zamasu)

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Slamscape said:
Vegeta PSSJB (Current) vs Goku PSSJB (Vs Merged Zamasu)?

Goku in MSsjB form is equal to Vegeta's MSsjB form. MSsjB Vegeta was stated to be "on par" with ToP MSsjB Goku. Also Vegeta said thet are equals.

So at best MSsjB Vegeta = MSsjB Goku (Vs Merged Zamasu)

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[mention]Keedounan[/mention] the boost probably doesn't need to be more than 4-5x their regular selves, given Initial Super #17 needn't be leagues above SS2 Vegeta, with the difference between SSJ and SS2 in GT seeming minimal. At her starting level Super #21 would be lucky to even hold her own against U6 Arc SSB Goku/Vegeta. With her hax techniques, she may be able to get pretty far, though given transmutation techniques can be resisted with enough Ki, she'd probably still lose against those of Hakaishin tier and certainly wouldn't solo.

SS3 Baby Arc Gotenks VS Super Vegeta-Baby
- No stamina drain for SS3. Fusion time limit still applies and Gotenks is taking the fight seriously.
- If Baby loses, he can transform into his 2nd transformation.
 

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The boys improved, but not by a whole lot. They still lose.

Top golden freeza vs ultimate gohan
 

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Manga-wise, Freeza gets stomped. Anime-wise, he wins due to superior skill.

Dyspo VS Future Zamasu
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- Zamasu's immortality is nerfed to Namekian tier regeneration.
 

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Dyspo blitzes hard. It's implied he was going toe to toe with #17 by the end of the tournament who's arguably stronger than SSJ3 and on SSJB tier, while Zamas was considered beatable by even FPSSJ2 Trunks, who's almost as strong as SSJ3 Goku.

Future #17 vs Present #18
 

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As both stated by Trunks and demonstrated by their fights, she defeated him very easily, while he could at least fight back in the future against the both of them. #18 wins.

Kaspo VS Whis
-Potara fusion between Dyspo and Katopesla
-Assume Dyspo's Maximum Speed Mode, and Light Bullet can be combined with Katopesla's Ultimate Mode.
 

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Kaspo would win via speedblitz, seeing as nobody was so fast as to be able to outright blitz KKx20 Blue Goku in the ToP and a fusion with one who's already faster than SSB tiers without factoring in Ultimate Mode would be a bit of a stretch. Even in terms of raw power, he'd likely stomp, since I really don't see the gap between SSB and MUI to be more than a 100x one anime-wise and Whis being 1.5x Beerus has yet to be truly contradicted.

Kaioken x10 PSSB Goku VS FP Jiren
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- Goku has no strain.
 

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I think Goku stomps. I don't see much of a reason to have Jiren so much stronger. 5x PSSJB Goku seems powerful enough.

Kuririn (21st) vs Guilan
 

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If Kuririn's hit by the Guruguru Gum, he likely loses. If not, he wins with high-diff.

SSBE Vegeta VS Psuedo-Kaioken SSB Goku, Ultimate Gohan and SSJ Kefla
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I think Vegeta SSJBE rivals fighting against all 3 at once, but as Goku PSSJB Pseudo Kaioken wears out, Vegeta gains the advantage and wins easily.

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Considering Vegeta's performance against Jiren, I'd say none of them stand a chance. Vegeta stomps.

Goku VS Yugi in silly haircut contest
 

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Considering Vegeta's performance against Jiren, I'd say none of them stand a chance. Vegeta stomps.

Goku VS Yugi in silly hair contest
 

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Goku if it's just the haircut. Yugi if including the colour.

MUI Goku VS SSB Vegetto
- Manga versions of both.
- Assume the time limit that stamina drain causes both is equal.
 
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