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Captain Cadaver said:
If this is saying who would win in a beam struggle, then Zamasu easily since he was winning such a struggle until Goku joined in. If you're asking which had the greater amp, most likely the Gyarikku Ho when considering the regular power of SSB Vegeta and SSJ Rage Trunks couldn't do anything to Halo Zamasu.

Chaozu (Filler battle against Gurd) VS Kuririn (VS Gurd/Reacoom)

I mean the first one. What would have happened if the Divine Wrath of Merged Zamasu Halo crashed against the combined attack of Vegeta SSJB's Galick Ho and Future Trunks SSJRage?

  At least the combined attack of the Galick Ho surpassed the power of the Lightning that sent him Merged Zamasu Halo to Future Trunks and to Vegeta. Then Merged Zamasu Halo released his Divine Wrath with all his strength to Goku. Vegeta and Future Trunks were injured, so they did not fight against the Divine Wrath. Anyway, I would also say that the Divine Wrath of Merged Zamasu Halo surpasses the combination of Galick Ho from Vegeta SSJB and Future Trunks SSJRage.

  I have Chaoz with 16,000, therefore he wins.

  Vegeta SSJB Kaioken x3 (Post Rosat) vs Goku SSJB (Final Arc Zamasu)?

  Both are from the Anime of the Arc Zamasu.

  Vegeta does not have tension.

  If Goku wins, then he will recover and face Vegeta SSJB Kaioken x4.
 

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Goku stomps. Vegeta was weaker than Goku Black Post scythe, and 3x Vegeta isn't surpassing Halo Zamasu. Goku takes it with low difficulty. 4x Vegeta isn't any difference at all.

-Base Goku Buu Saga vs Pikkon
 

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Vegeta SSJB was superior to Goku Black Post Scythe, only that Vegeta was complicated by having to fight against copies of Goku Black. Anyway Vegeta and Goku would have defeated Goku Black and Future Zamasu if they had not merged.

It depends if you mean Pikkon (Weighted / Debut) or Pikkon (Weighted / Boo).

  if it is the first, then Goku Base wins very easily, since he had a minimal advantage over Pikkon (Weighted) in his Debut and then Goku trained for 7 years. If this is Pikkon (Weighted / Boo), I would say that Goku wins with extreme difficulty. I think that in those 7 years Goku and Pikkon progressed to the same level, just by seeing the M12.

  Broly God (Movie 2017) vs Vegeta SSJB (ToP)?
 

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If you just mean regular SSJ Blue, there won't be much of a movie if Broly can't beat that. Also, didn't he fight an SSJ God in base in the trailer?

SSJ Slightly Darker Blue might last a little longer, but I don't think Broly will lose to anything less than UI.
 

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Since there was no continuation battle, I'll take this turn.

Taopaipai runs the 22nd TB Gauntlet

Man-Wolf
King Chappa
Chaozu
Yamcha
Kuririn
Tsuru Sennin
Jackie Chun
Tenshinhan (Full power)
Goku (Battle Level)

- Equal battle powers.
- Full intel for both sides.
- Tao gets healed after each fight.
- Budokai rules, so no sword or grenade capsules. Kikoho is also restricted.

Super Neko Majin Z said:
If you just mean regular SSJ Blue, there won't be much of a movie if Broly can't beat that.
He meant the version of Broly who appears in the Shonen Jump 4-D experience, who stomped SSB Goku and Vegeta (likely from the FT Arc) and is defeated by a fusion of Goku and the audience.
 

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He takes them all. Tao Pai Pai can easily be argued to be superior to Tien from the 22nd Budokai, who Akira said that he and Goku are dead equals

-Kaioshin vs Base Goku (Buu Saga)
 

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CroMagnumDVH said:
He takes them all. Tao Pai Pai can easily be argued to be superior to Tien from the 22nd Budokai, who Akira said that he and Goku are dead equals
Despite getting stomped by a far weaker version of Goku...

Also, I said "Equal Battle Powers" if you weren't aware, meaning it's purely a match of skill and technique.

-Kaioshin vs Base Goku (Buu Saga)
Base Goku stomps, seeing as how Base Saiyans ~ Yakon >> Shin is made pretty apparent and backed up by the Daizenshuu, whereas the evidence for otherwise tends to be pretty flimsy.

Kuririn VS Akkuman
- In this scenario, 21st TB Kuririn scales Karin-to and receives the same training gains Goku got from Karin's training.
- Fight takes place in the Budokai stadium with it's rules applying.
 

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Captain Cadaver said:
Despite getting stomped by a far weaker version of Goku...

I'm talking about Cyborg Tao Bruh

Also, I said "Equal Battle Powers" if you weren't aware, meaning it's purely a match of skill and technique.

If that's the case then he stops at Jackie Chun

Kuririn VS Akkuman
- In this scenario, 21st TB Kuririn scales Karin-to and receives the same training gains Goku got from Karin's training.
- Fight takes place in the Budokai stadium with it's rules applying.

It would be an even fight, with Akkuman ending up being the winner, unless Krillin thinks of some strategy since he's not an idiot at all and might be able to take the win

-Dyspo vs Base Goku (Episode 131, Healed)

Transformations are unallowed for both sides
 

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CroMagnumDVH said:
I'm talking about Cyborg Tao Bruh
OK, cool, though I would've specified that if it were the case. :giraffe

-Dyspo vs Base Goku (Episode 131, Healed)
Transformations are unallowed for both sides[/quote]Dyspo still ought to stomp. I don't see much of a reason to place Jiren's fatigued self that lost to a fatigued Goku and Freeza close to someone who can prove troublesome to Golden Freeza. Then again, Dyspo's strength is widely inconsistent throughout the ToP to the point True form Freeza was overpowering him. Regardless, I'd say the Super Light Speed Mode or whatever it's called makes it an automatic win if not restricted.

23rd TB Piccolo VS Saiyan Arc Vegeta
- Equal battle powers and full intel for both.
 

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Captain Cadaver said:
OK, cool, though I would've specified that if it were the case.

People ought to mistake things here and there :idk

Dyspo still ought to stomp. I don't see much of a reason to place Jiren's fatigued self that lost to a fatigued Goku and Freeza close to someone who can prove troublesome to Golden Freeza. Then again, Dyspo's strength is widely inconsistent throughout the ToP to the point True form Freeza was overpowering him. Regardless, I'd say the Super Light Speed Mode or whatever it's called makes it an automatic win if not restricted.

Depends whether you have Final Form Frieza at Base Goku's level or not in general. Base Goku on episode 131 is arguably above SsjB Goku Episode 127 :galu

23rd TB Piccolo VS Saiyan Arc Vegeta
- Equal battle powers and full intel for both.

I still believe Vegeta would win. I believe Vegeta has more experience than Piccolo by the time, and pulling out killing would make it easier for Vegeta to act, especially since it's Saiyan Saga Vegeta

-Super Perfect Cell vs Beerus

Equal Battle Powers and overall stats. Cell can get stronger if he survives a blast from Beerus similar to his self-destruct, and is aware of Beerus's Hakai. Beerus is also aware of Cell's abilities and zenkais
 

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Cell wins. Only things Beerus has to stack up to Cell's broken moveset are Hakai and his basic UI essence in the manga, and the latter seems to not be too effective against an equal opponent. He also seems to get worn down by an equal opponent pretty quickly as shown with the Hakaishin battle royale, whereas Cell has only been shown to lose stamina quickly when regenerating. We also can't use Beerus' sealing ability that we can assume counters immortals/regenerators would work when we've yet to see how it works in an actual fight, or at all.

SSJ Saiyan Arc Vegeta VS Enraged Gohan (VS 2nd form Freeza)
- No stamina issues for either.
- Both in character (which is basically bloodlusted).
 

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Vegeta wins due to superior skill, I also don't think Gohan was all that close to Initial 2nd Form Freeza. Gohan just caught him off-guard but the assault hardly did superficial damage.

SSJ2 Vegeta (MY BULMAHH) vs Super Vegetto (Boo arc)
 

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Vegeta oneshots, seeing as how the implied chain is My Bulma Vegeta > Initial Beerus > SS3 Vegetto (BoG) >>>>> SS3 Vegetto (Boo Arc).

Kaioken x2 King Cold VS SSJ Future Trunks (VS Mecha Freeza/Cold)
- No Kaioken strain.
 

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Cold wins, I don't think that the gap between him and Trunks is 2x.

Ultimate Gohan (Boo arc) vs. Super Boo and SSj3 Gotenks
- Gotenks only has five minutes, but he will be serious the entire time
- Absorption is not allowed, but the Candy Beam is
- Gohan has full intel on his opponents' attacks
 

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If Gohan immediately blasts Boo and blitzes Gotenks right after he should be able to beat up Gotenks quickly while Boo is regenerating. Gotenks seemed to have a slight advantage over Super Boo as the fight went on, but Gohan absolutely thrashed Boo. If Gotenks took those same attacks from Gohan he would be in a lot of trouble since he doesn't have haxed stamina like Boo. Gohan could focus on Super Boo after and we all know how that goes. Gohands wins if he's smart.


Initial Namek Goku Kaio Ken x6 vs. 1st Form Freeza.
 

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Most likely Kaioken strain won't mean much seeing how confident he was at using x10, so Goku wins with superior power and skill.

Muten Roshi (Black Water Mist) VS Weighted Piccolo (post-Kaio training)
 

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Piccolo stomps. Gohan and Kuririn seemed to be holding back against the Black Water Mist infected humans.

Guldo vs Shin

- Equal battle powers
 

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Shin stomps. His telekinesis has been shown to be effective against an opponent with a far greater difference in power than in Gurd's battle, plus his ability to summon Katchin would prove a good manoeuvre if used similar to in the Budokai games.

Majin Freeza (Namek) VS SSJ Future Trunks (Initial)
- Freeza gets the same boost as Vegeta.
- If Freeza loses, make it his Mecha self who gets the boost.
 

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I think Trunks wins both rounds, but he has to put some effort on the second. It's strongly implied that the outcome of Trunks vs Freeza would've been the same if Freeza were at 100%, and i find doubtful that Majin Vegeta or Goku could one shot pre Majin Vegeta.

Golden Freeza (ToP) vs Toppo
~ Manga versions of both
 

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