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[SIAD]

He loses both, since it isn't implied Cell gained a considerable amount of power from absorbing the population of Gingertown and Nikkitown. Even if he did, Cell's techniques would still overcome Vegeta with the right strategy.

Kaioken x100 Tenshinhan (Cell Arc) VS SSJ Sick Goku
- No Kaioken strain for Ten.
- If Goku loses, make it his full power self with no Heart Disease.

Didn't you have Tenshinhan (Android) rivaling the Base Saiyans (Android) and a 10x multiplier the SSJ?

  Tenshinhan could even defeat the 2 Androids # 17 and # 18 together.

  Cell (Post Absorb Piccolo Arm) vs Future Android # 18.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Didn't you have Tenshinhan (Android) rivaling the Base Saiyans (Android) and a 10x multiplier the SSJ?

I do, but of course not everyone's going to agree with that stance.

Cell (Post Absorb Piccolo Arm) vs Future Android # 18.

#18 still wins. Cell made his statement about attempting to surpass #17 and #18 after he absorbed Piccolo's arm, so he had yet to surpass either of them at the time and it can be assumed the similarities to Trunks' timeline would make the #17 and #18 of both Trunks and Cell's timelines about equal.

SS2 Kefla VS Jiren (VS SSBE Vegeta)
- Manga versions of both.

 

[SIAD]

Didn't you have Tenshinhan (Android) rivaling the Base Saiyans (Android) and a 10x multiplier the SSJ?

I do, but of course not everyone's going to agree with that stance.

Cell (Post Absorb Piccolo Arm) vs Future Android # 18.

#18 still wins. Cell made his statement about attempting to surpass #17 and #18 after he absorbed Piccolo's arm, so he had yet to surpass either of them at the time and it can be assumed the similarities to Trunks' timeline would make the #17 and #18 of both Trunks and Cell's timelines about equal.

SS2 Kefla VS Jiren (VS SSBE Vegeta)
- Manga versions of both.

I am sure that the Cell and Future Trunks Lines were the same, but with the difference that in one Trunks he was killed by Cell and in the other Timeline, Trunks returned very strong and ended up with Cell.

  I don't think another Future Trunks has finished with Freezer (Cell Line), but it would be illogical for Cell to be surprised at how powerful Vegeta SSJ (Android) is.

  What gap do you have between Future # 18 on Vegeta SSJ (Android)?

  At least we know that: Future Android # 18> Cell (Post Arm of Piccolo)> Cell (Post Ginger)> Cell (Pre Ginger)> Vegeta SSJ (Android).

As for Jiren (Vs Vegeta SSJBE) vs Kefla SSJ2?

  It all depends on whether the multiplier of SSJ2 over SSJ is 2 or 4x.

  SQ.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

  What gap do you have between Future # 18 on Vegeta SSJ (Android)?

Probably something quite small, given how Trunks stated he could still put up a fight against his timeline's #17 and #18 plus didn't note any difference in movements for Present #18 when SSJ Vegeta was clashing evenly with her casual self. What power Cell gained was probably minimal or just made up for lost stamina against Piccolo.

As for Jiren (Vs Vegeta SSJBE) vs Kefla SSJ2?
  SQ.

No reason to assume the SS2 multiplier is more than 2x SSJ, especially for Super. I'd say Kefla would have the power advantage and better stamina, so she wins with extreme-diff.

Pre-Majin Dabura VS SSJ Vegeta and Trunks (Cell Games)
- Assume that Dabura's boost was equivalent to Vegeta's and that Gohan was a SSJ against him.
- The team has full intel on Dabura's magic.
- If the team loses, add in Cell Games Piccolo.

 

[Keedounan]

I'd say Pre-Majin Dabura would be somewhere around the Cell Juniors. The gap between Goku and Vegeta pre-Majin was implied to be quite significant, which is what led him to use the Majin boost. With that said, due to being really close to Dabura in power to him and having full intel on his magic, Vegeta and Trunks should be able to win if they somehow manage to work together.

SSJ Broly (Movie 10) VS Pikkon

 

[Captain Cadaver]

This version of Broly ought to be above Boo Arc SSJ Goku going by the Daizenshuu entry, so he wins against Anoyoichi Budokai Paikuhan, but likely loses to the Paikuhan from M12 without weights due to superior skill.

Anime Boo Arc Yamcha & Kuririn VS M8 LSSJ

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Broly stomps both of them. Taking the Galaxy feat into account, he’s at least Vegetto level, while Yamcha and Kuririn are just Solar System+.

Z Vegetto runs the Movie 8 gauntlet
~ Whenever Vegetto loses, he’s allowed to come back with a higher form.
~ Take the Galaxy level hax as true.

 

[Animelover5487]

Vegetto fingerclicks. Broly didn't destroy the Galaxy at one time. Broly was destroying planets for years at a rapid rate until eventually the entire galaxy vanquished.

22nd Yamcha vs Kuririn

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Yamcha has better control of the Kamehameha, but Kuririn's a far more strategic fighter and won't just stand about. Kuririn wins with extreme-diff.

Broly (Planet Vegeta's destruction) VS Vegeta, Gohan and Kuririn (VS 1st form Freeza)
- Movie timeline Broly. He can control his power in this scenario.

 

[ahill1]

Iirc Broly was read as having a BP on the range of 900 in this period of his time life. Isn't that correct? Unless you are referring to the Broly from the original movie, made by Koyama.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Unless you are referring to the Broly from the original movie, made by Koyama.

I am, as I made apparent with "movie timeline", the Broly who was able to shield himself when at ground zero of Planet Vegeta's destruction.

 

[Animelover5487]

The team still wins. Heck, Gohan or even Kuririn could probably solo him. Broly doesn't have much control over his power at this point.

 

[Keedounan]

The team still wins. Heck, Gohan or even Kuririn could probably solo him. Broly doesn't have much control over his power at this point.

Yamcha has better control of the Kamehameha, but Kuririn's a far more strategic fighter and won't just stand about. Kuririn wins with extreme-diff.

Broly (Planet Vegeta's destruction) VS Vegeta, Gohan and Kuririn (VS 1st form Freeza)
- Movie timeline Broly. He can control his power in this scenario.

 

[Animelover5487]

Sorry I overlooked that part. Anyway to get this thread bsck moving, the team wins. Freeza was just casually sitting on his throne when he blew it up, I doubt he was using anywhere near his full power.

Base Future Trunks (Pre Timeskip) vs Goku (vs Ginyu Force)

 

[Captain Cadaver]

I'd personally go with the 10x multiplier for SSJ for that point of the manga, given how the idea of Gohan telling Trunks he may surpass him soon is a lot more ridiculous when having Trunks over 50x weaker in the same form. That said, Trunks oneshots.

Jiren (post-True UI Goku battle fatigue) VS ToP Piccolo
- Manga versions of both.
- Jiren can't get his resolve hax.

 

[ahill1]

That's a good battle. We know that Piccolo sits right in between the base and SSJ and I think it's fair to assume the imporvements Goku and Vegeta made in the Zamasu's saga were restricted to their God states. Since the SSJ's multiplier seems relatively small given Goku managing to draw blood from Hit in base and Whis emphasizing Vegeta and Goku's teamwork as a bright side, I think Jiren, managing to hold them off and tank their combined attack, gets it.

Goku (hunt for the DBs) vs Gon (Hunter's exam arc)

 

[Captain Cadaver]

If Goku can tag him, he stomps. He can crush boulders and destroy small cars, whereas Gon's best physical feat at this point is catching a giant fish nowhere near as big as the Bear Bandit Galu oneshotted. Gon is far faster, however, and if he grabs Goku's tail it's an instant win. Assuming all these factors are still taken into account, I'd say Gon is smart enough to win.

North and West Kaioshin VS SSJ Gohan (Boo Arc)

 

[Keedounan]

The team wins if they catch Gohan with their Telekinesis. If Shin's Telekinesis was strong enough to hold down Gohan in his SSJ2 form, two more powerful and experienced Kaioshins can do the same to his SSJ form.

Piccolo VS Tenshinhan
-BP equalized

 

[ahill1]

Piccolo's the more skilled fighter imo, and has techniques that can be used to his advantage. Vegeta scolded Tenshinhan for not suppressing the chi and noticed that Piccolo had accounted for that, stating "Now there's a warrior!".

Tenshinhan vs Kuririn

Equal BPs

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Kuririn wins. He's displayed himself throughout the series as early as the 22nd TB to be a more tactical and creative fighter, plus the only techniques Ten could put to his advantage such as the Taiyoken and Shin Kikoho can be used by Kuririn too and would leave him open respectively.

Kami VS Current Gear 4th Luffy
- Speed equalised.
- If Luffy loses, add in Katakuri to help him.