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Honestly think slug takes it. I have him stronger than 2nd form frieza.
Raditz vs BOZ Goku with Kaioken. Goku has the same strain as in saiyan saga.
 

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Unless Galu can somehow handle 4x Kaioken, he loses by default due to needing 3x just to be close to an even playing field. Raditz stomps at 2x.

SSJ2 Freeza arc Gohan (post-2nd form Freeza) vs. SSJ Vegeta (post-Dende)
 

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I'd peg Gohan as being 105mil with SS2, whereas Vegeta would end up over 115mil. Vegeta has the power and skill to take this.

Saiyan Arc Piccolo, Tenshinhan, Kuririn and Yamcha VS Kaio
- Kikoho and Kienzan are banned. Kaio is aware of the Taiyoken and Makankosappo.
 

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Kaio wins if it's anime Kaio since he could disappear from the view of the audience during a time in which people can keep up with fights like Super Vegeta vs. Cell. Manga Kaio could probably be done in through Kuririn and Yamcha spamming scatter bullets/Kamehamehas while Tenshinhan spams Dodonpas, and Piccolo could potentially deal the final blow with a Makankosappo (which he seemed to have mastered by the Nappa fight).

SSJ Future Trunks (kid) vs. base post-Ginyu Galu, post-Nail Piccolo and enraged post-2nd form Freeza Gohan
 

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Galu on his own might be enough considering how fatigued Trunks was from sparring with a Base Gohan who shouldn't be vastly above this version of his father and wasn't tired at all. Adding in 2 more above the 1mil benchmark is overkill.

Yamcha VS Kuririn
- 23rd TB versions of both.
- Kuririn has no knowledge of the Sokidan, Yamcha has no knowledge of Kuririn's bukujutsu.
- Fight takes place in the Budokai ring with standard tournament rules.
 

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@Captain Cadaver It could be argued that Trunks had only just attained Super Saiyan considering even a Gohan whose power was in the millions in base couldn't maintain SSJ the first time he attained it, though. Poor stamina could just be a side effect of being an underdeveloped user of regular, unmastered SSJ (whereas Goten and Present Trunks seem to have inherited so many S-Cells that they just naturally mastered it).

I'd probably give it to Yamcha a little more often than not because of his Sokidan, but if he doesn't whip it out fast, Kuririn might get him with his tracking blasts and take the upperhand.

Gundam Seed/Destiny vs. Gundam 00 vs. Gundam UC vs. that non-canon Saint Seiya spinoff vs. DBS vs. post-Baby DBGT vs. Yu-Gi-Oh Arc-V in bastardization battle royale
 

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Super wins by a country mile with how much it destroys character development or any semblance of coherency along with retroactively ruining most of Z's arcs. GT is probably next as, despite the Super #17 Arc being founded on a plot hole and the Evil Dragons Arc having multiple inconsistencies, the latter at least had a good premise and the characters weren't butchered as in Super. Gundam UC comes next for ruining the themes and tone of the Universal Century storylines. The Saint Seiya spinoff's ranking depends on which non-canon one we're talking about (because there's at least a dozen :troll ), with something like Omega or the Netflix series going in between Super and GT whereas something like Lost Canvas being far less egregious than the others already mentioned. The other Gundam spinoffs come next by making it very clear their timeline is divorced from the original and are unable to infringe on past characters, and I have little knowledge or care to rank Arc-V.

Saiyan Arc Yajirobe and Chaozu VS Saibaiman
- The team are aware of self-destruct and acid, whereas the Saibaiman is unaware of Chaozu's telekinesis.
 

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Chaozu paralyses the Saibaman and Yajirobe cuts it up. Would be a fairer match if they didn’t know about the acid or self destruction, but I’d still give it to the team.

Base Bojack vs Cell (Vs Goku)
 

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Honestly think Bojack takes it. I think his blue form is closer to full power perfect cell.
Turles post fruit of might vs Dore( Salza force)
 

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Dore stomps. I think Sauza's force is stronger than Freeza's weaker forms ubduvudyakkt, while Tullece needn't be any stronger than 1st form Freeza.

Vegeta (Post Genki-Dama) vs Saibaman
- Vegeta has good stamina, but is still injured and limited to that power. He also knows about acid and explosion, but that's obvious already.
 

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His explosive wave didn't even hurt a fatigued Gohan and Kuririn too badly. And considering that an enraged Gohan fought him pretty well even prior to the Genki Dama, I think the Saibaman would give him a hell of a fight. I'd only give it to Vegeta by a hair if he plays it smart, but there's also the fact that he only has one eyeball to consider. Difficult to say tbh.

Same fight
 

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Saibaiman ought to win. Vegeta couldn't even knock Yajirobe unconscious with his punch, compared to someone not far stronger than the Saibaiman like Raditz easily tanking a Kamehameha with Ki not much less than Yajirobe's level. Vegeta's injury would also include his eye, which would make things more difficult as he can't sense Ki.

Fatigued Toppo VS True form Frost
- Manga versions of both.
 

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Frost stomps. Freeza doesn’t seem to be much stronger than Frost in equal forms since they both struggled with SSJ1s, and Freeza was tooling both Toppo and Dyspo.

Master Karin vs Master Tsuru
~ If Karin wins, make him fight 22nd Budokai Roshi.
 

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Master Karin is stronger, since Goku after receiving 2 Zenkai Powers after the TB, just surpassed Master Karin.

Master Karin wins.

Jiren (Beyond Limits) vs Vegeta SSJBE (Post Yadart)?
 

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Jiren. I think MUI's power is a constant, a state of being Goku slowly reaches by perfecting UI Sign. So I think Jiren should stomp, plus I think even normal FP Jiren would beat Vegeta.

Jiren (Beyond Limits) vs SSJBE Vegeta (Current)
 

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Jiren. I think MUI's power is a constant, a state of being Goku slowly reaches by perfecting UI Sign. So I think Jiren should stomp, plus I think even normal FP Jiren would beat Vegeta.

Jiren (Beyond Limits) vs SSJBE Vegeta (Current)
I've only seen the anime prior to reading Moro, but I say Jiren takes this pretty easily. Nothing Vegeta did in that time makes me think he closed that much of a gap yet.

Semi Cell vs Androids 13, 14 and 15. No merging or absorbing.
 

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Post-Gingertown 1st form Cell would already be more than enough, even if they merge. Having him one transformation up is just overkill.

Combined Mega Cannon Sigma VS SS3 Gotenks
- No fusion time limit, but SS3's stamina issues still apply. Gotenks can use the SKGA if at the verge of defeat.
 

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Post-Gingertown 1st form Cell would already be more than enough, even if they merge. Having him one transformation up is just overkill.

Combined Mega Cannon Sigma VS SS3 Gotenks
- No fusion time limit, but SS3's stamina issues still apply. Gotenks can use the SKGA if at the verge of defeat.
Hmm. Lots have said Base GT Me is at Buu Saga SS3.
Gotenks was stronger than me then, so based on both of these, I give it to Gotenks.
 

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