Z Sword Gohan

[Fantastische Hure]

Aww, you two guys are adorable.

thx :drugs :drugs :drugs

 

[kriss-]

There is such a lack of evidence to support the notion that Gohan increased that I'm uncomfortable in placing him anywhere.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

There is such a lack of evidence to support the notion that Gohan increased that I'm uncomfortable in placing him anywhere.

so is he jst floating in space now???

 

[kriss-]

As long as he's below Goku, everything works fine. 2

 

[Fantastische Hure]

goku isn't stronger tho 2 2 2

 

[kriss-]

Debatable.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

well then y u talk as if it were fax??? 2 2 2

 

[kriss-]

I'd go as far as to say Dragonball Super makes it a fact, Lol.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

I'd go as far as to say Dragonball Super makes it a fact, Lol.

not rly 2 2 2

 

[kriss-]

Sure it does Lol.

Vegeta: "After defeating Majin Boo, Goku became the #1 strongest in The Universe."

So it places Goku's strength as top dog back in the Boo Arc.

Toriyama also states Goku Ssj3 in BoG & Db Super is the same strength as Goku from the Boo Arc. So if Goku is stronger in Super he's stronger in the Boo Arc as well.

All that one needs to make that work is some fine tuning of the dialogue in the Boo Saga. But that's for another thread, let's not get off topic.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

no it doesn't rly

 

[kriss-]

I guess we could just dismiss the interview with the author and the direct statements that aren't really debatable.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

I guess we could just dismiss the interview with the author and the direct statements that aren't really debatable.

yes we can :$ :$ :$

 

[kriss-]

@The_Authority
If you debate with Akira Toriyama about Dragon Ball, you wil loose (see what I did there). It's not about what you think you know, it's about what he intended. He excluded battle powers and everything for a reason, that reason was to increase the drama and tension in the fights. Everything that happened was to heighten the suspense. At the end of the day, it all depends on what he had in mind. So you might THINK that everyone knows more about Dragonball than he does, but in reality, the only thing for sure is what he wanted to do with the series. And if he wants to say Piccolo is the strongest you'd have a very tough time proving otherwise because technically, we never get the answer. He could always say that someone was holding back or had a motivation for not going full out or whatever.

So if you debate against him, he'd laugh a lot and tell you what's what.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying everything he does is perfect, but what I am saying is that Dragonball is not the real world with real world rules and consequences. It's the figment of Akira Toriyama's imagination; you cannot dictate what the truth is in that world.

Conclusively, if Toriyama has Vegeta stating Goku is the strongest in the Boo Saga, than it's just that.

It's simple really.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

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[Southern Gothic]

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That's not a post.

 

[FutureProtagonist]

Toriyama has explicitly... well, more or less... stated in "Volume F" that he doesn't have to stick with consistency if he doesn't want to, because he's the author.

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=27729&start=26420#p923038

http://dbzeta.net/single/?p=8277090&t=10668767

That about sums up my feelings on using DB Super as evidence for manga battle powers.

It's also ridiculously hypocritical to justify beliefs you've held for years using evidence that came in the past few months.

 

[Southern Gothic]

I do agree that Goku > Z sword Gohan.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

I do agree that Goku > Z sword Gohan.

get the chainsaw

 

[Southern Gothic]

I do agree that Goku > Z sword Gohan.

get the chainsaw

I just read it the other day. And that's what the Lord said to me at the time. But I can't give Gohan that much cred, l0l. I still put him on par with SSJ2 Goku/Vegeta.