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I think we all agree DBZ SSJ3 Vegetto would be somewhere between Baby Vegeta and Super Baby Vegeta 2. But BoG Goku and Vegeta are much stronger than their DBZ selves, so how would Vegetto fare in GT? Just to be clear, this is right at the beginning of BoG. No Enraged Vegeta, no SSJG, no god...

So there’s this common interpretation than when Baby says “I’ve obtained the greatest of Saiyan power!” he’s indirectly comparing himself to Super Vegetto, otherwise the statement is redundant since he’d already beat Goku before getting his Super Baby 1 form. But if that was the intent of the...

All Cell does is hurt an off guard Gohan who underestimated him and get stalled by a weakened Gohan. I doubt Cell was toying because he took his time charging the Kamehameha and he literally screams “Die!” before firing it. Gohan holding his own is a genuine feat here.

Looking at the japanese version of Daizenshuu 7, it seems like Gotenks is the only Saiyan to only be featured in his base form. All the other Saiyans have pictures of their multiple forms in their entries. (Pages 79-81, 92, 107 & 108).

Who wins? @Power Level Guy @SSJ2 @ahill

21TB Roshi lands the Bankoku Bikkuri Sho on Tao. Can he kill Tao with it? Or at least weaken him?

Which one is stronger?

Did he peak in his years with Mutaito? I’d imagine Roshi’s prime was after he invented the Kamehameha, but that’s at least several decades after the Piccolo Wars.

Saiyan Saga Freeza Saga Cell Saga Boo Saga

What are the odds the writers are making a veiled reference to Vegetto here? Why not straight up mention him? I don't think Vegetto is ever directly referenced at all in GT.

This fight isn’t really that close. It’s not even a real fight, more like Freeza is gauging him. Freeza powers up and charges Vegeta, not knowing he’d become so strong. He’s surprised Vegeta can catch his punch and he’s clearly not goofing around, but there’s no real struggle from Freeza here...

So in the Uranai Baba Saga, Kuririn says “Wish I got to see this Shenlong guy too” and it got me wondering… When did Kuririn meet Shenlong? In the RR Saga Goku summoned Shenlong in Karin’s Land, away from the others. Both times in the Piccolo Saga he was dead. When Goku was revived for the...

Pilaf Saga Goku ~ Base: 50 ~ Kamehameha: 55 ~ Oozaru: 500 Bulma: 3 Pterodon: 15 Bear Bandit: 30 Sea Turtle: 1 Master Roshi ~ Base: 450 ~ MAX Power: 4,500 ~ MAX Power Kamehameha: 6,000 Oolong: 2 Puar: 1.5 Yamcha ~ Base: 45 ~ Roga Fufuken: 50 Gyumao: 300 Chi-Chi: 30 T-Rex: 285 Pilaf: 2...

I've been strict about SSJ multipliers for a while, but I think Daima gives the perfect excuse to nerf SSJ multipliers. SSJ doing barely any better than base? Base adults > SSJ4 minis? Yeah this is some GT-level nerfed multipliers. SSJ is the good old 2.5x and SSJ3 is probably twice that. First...

I’ll give each episode a thumbs up or thumbs down. Each thumbs up will be half a point and in the end they’ll add up for a 10 points score, with points added or deducted from the overall flow of the series. Episode 1 has a greatly animated recap of the Boo Saga (and surprisingly consistent...

This is a red hot topic when it comes to DBS, but I don’t think it was ever touched here in Zeta. In the anime Goku absorbs SSJG’s power into his lower forms, but some people think it was retconned. In the manga there’s no clear absorption and base Saiyans are featless. Is Goku barely stronger...

Full power: 18,000 Post beam struggle: 14,500 Post Ki Ball: 4,500 Oozaru: 45,000 Post Oozaru: 3,000 Post Genki Dama: 1,500 Goku: 8,000 ~ Post beam struggle: 4,000 ~ Hypothetical Kaioken x5: 20,000 - 40,000? Genki Dama: 50,000 ~ Weakened: 25,000 Gohan: 1,250 ~ Enraged: 2,500 ~ Oozaru: 12,500...

@Power Level Guy @SSJ2 @SIAD Going by Kamehameha = Garlic Gun and Garlic Gun = 1.33x, I think it's fair to say that's the amp in the Saiyan Saga. Goku (FP vs Raditz): 693 (75% of 924) ~ Kamehameha: 924 Piccolo (FP vs Raditz): 680 (2/3 of 1020, the number Raditz gets when Piccolo starts...

Moro always felt like a DBZ villain to me (Probably because he’s a mix of the big 3), and with all the Kaioshin lore he’d feel adequate as a villain immediately after the Boo Saga. Just take alway the god forms and tighten the plot a bit and it would be much better, wouldn’t it?

Just thought about this in the Cell regen thread. In the Boo Saga, Goten or Trunks accidentally broke Piccolo’s statue. Later he comes back like nothing happened, brushing it off with regen. But we saw before that arms alone cost a ton of Ki. How is Piccolo alright after regenerating his whole...