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Vegeta's buu saga outfit.

SSB Goku and Ikari Broly were pretty much even. Broly then went SS. So he is 50x SSB. He then transforms into FP/Legendary SS and tanks a shot from SS Gogeta who felt the need to go all the way to blue to win. Which implies the jump from SS to FPSS Broly was not small. Even if it was as small...

Same could be said about Goku using the Spirit Bomb, KK, his entire group of friends, etc. Vegeta, in canon, is 3-0 against Goku.

I'd say it was draining to him. No reason to really lie there. Instead of a single ki blast, I would think it was like a constant use of ki nonstop to maintain. So it would also make sense that it was draining his energy since he had to keep pushing ki into it to keep it up.

People who can't enjoy anything that is produced. Come to forums and cry about how terrible it is, the writing, etc. Yet, still come to talk about it. They hate it so much they have to complain yet fill compelled to stick around for years at a time.

Do you account for the two manga arcs? I personally do not count them in Super Hero. So when they say the Gammas are around Goku/Vegeta level, I take this as they are SSB level. With that said, Orange Piccolo no sold one of those Gammas and rolled him in a single hit. I'd say Piccolo wins with...

If we go by Pan's age, it should take place after the Granolah Arc.

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I was wondering if we were going to ever see that ability again.

I already have for three pages. I see this is going nowhere but circles.

The only two we have been talking about for the last 3 pages.......

Then why didn't Goku just use KK x 20 to power up? It would have made him twice as strong as SS and would have just 1-shot everyone. Given that SS multipliers have SS2 at only 2x SS, minus Goku's slightly smaller base than Gohan's, this would make Goku's KKx20 as strong as Gohan's SS2. Why...

A deductive argument is the presentation of statements that are assumed or known to be true as premises for a conclusion that necessarily follows from those statements. Which would require the premise to be true through evidence. In this case, Goku getting a zenkai is the premise but there is...

There is the problem. Suggest =/= fact. This is still a baseless claim. Daizenshuu 7 tells us base Goku is 3 million. Times SS/50x is 150 million. It is never suggested in universe he got a zenkai and we have feats from KK that show SS has to be greater than 40x in power. Goku didn't get a...

Because a retcon didn't take place in Buu Saga. You claim Gohan was >50x Piccolo in base. Again, Gohan says Goten is comparable to him in power. Which would put Goten also at 50x Piccolo in base. Yet this Goten struggles with 18. Either 18 powered up massively, which she didn't, or Piccolo is...

Baseless claim that he got a zenkai. The answer is much more simple. Plot required base Goku to not inst-die to 100% Frieza. If base Goku was near 100% Frieza, then SS Goku should have 1-shot him, even if it was only 10x power increase. Changing the SS multiplier to 10 would not be consistent...

In RoF, not Buu Saga or Cell Saga.

It is firmly established against Frieza that it is at least close. Goku used KKx20 against Frieza when he was at 1/2 power and still could not win. Meaning that had Goku used a hypothetical KKx40 he would lose to full power Frieza. Yet when Goku does get SS he is able to defeat Frieza. This...

That took place in Z, not Super. There is also no evidence in Z to support base Gohan being > 50x stronger than Piccolo. Using Super as an example, is an association fallacy. What's your case here? The burden of proof is on you.