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I'd say Khabib gets it done. He knows how dangerous Tyson would be in a stand up fight, so he'd look to execute his wrestling quite early on. And once it hits the ground, Khabib would impose his will in a very dominant fashion. Tyson could irritate him by fighting dirty (e.g. biting), but they'd...

It appears that there are two main camps when it comes to Gotenks > Goku: 1) Those who think that trained Gotenks, even without transforming, is relevant or superior to Goku at his best. and 2) Those who think only Gotenks at his best exceeds Goku at his best. It's understandable why someone...

First of all, it's not just about absorbing the humans; Piccolo and Gohan were also on his radar, who are far more significant. Furthermore, Gero's thoughts may or may not be wrong. It's an aspect of the plot that was teased, but never materialised. To speak of the outcome with complete...

@ahill1 But when the storyline (in this case) doesn't display numerical differences he can go off of, then he has no reference point. Surely you understand that he's not conducting something that's factual; he's trying to represent his position as if it is, which is where the problem lies...

It appears that you've become so accustomed to your own way of thinking that nothing else matters. There isn't a single numerical figure presented for Gero or the others in the plot we're discussing, so you have nothing to draw from. The burden of proof is eternally on you.

When the story arc itself doesn't partake in numerical power gaps, there's no inherent reason to gravitate towards them. Plucking figures out of thin air does nothing besides serving headcanon; it has no impact.

@ahill1 Glad that you've re-evaluated your view to gain a wider understanding. Just wanna mention a couple of things: Destroying the battle ground is bound to catch anyone's attention in a very serious way. Not only is it massively unexpected for a contestant to go to those lengths, but there...

If you're only interested in creating numbers, then I'd recommend asking someone else. I don't find it necessary.

What you've done here is form your own thought on what Gero would and wouldn't do, then tried to pass it off as a fact. You've also been pushing a strawman, considering I never claimed that Gero would specifically sneak up on Vegeta by the time he's ready for him. If that's all you got, then it...

As you pointed out earlier, Gero acknowledged that Vegeta doesn't let his guard down, implying that sneaking up on him actually would require more power if he intends not to fail. Also, Gero didn't say anything was off limits once he gathers the power he needs, nor did he propose a particular...

@GreatSaiyaman123 @FeatsofPower Actually, Gero contemplated his options, then decided that the best form of action was to go back to the lab; he didn't like having to resort to that, but still deemed it the most logical choice. He then saw the Z Fighters in convenient spots, and then switched...

He was brilliant in his field, but his fight with Piccolo is a good example of why his word can be subject to scrutiny. Despite being backed by computational analysis, he ended up overestimating his post-absorption power and underestimating Piccolo. The focus should be on Gero rather than Super...

Gero being the foundation of your argument is problematic for two main reasons: A) The inner workings of his absorption method are kind of a grey area, because although he absorbed ki from some of the Z Fighters, it's channelled through his mechanical energy source. So we're dealing with an...

Implications =/= proof, so that premise is already shaky. We can still discuss it if you're down. So what implications go against 50x?

Him thinking that in a particular moment isn't the same as establishing it as a hard rule. I've yet to see anything that firmly stands in the way of the boost being 50x. And there seems to be enough wiggle room in the way Gotenks' power is interpreted for it to not outright change things.

The idea that it reduced seems to enter subjective territory. People can believe whatever they want, but an official source ought to outweigh what you feel is an implication. Dragon Ball is a fairly simplistic story, and appears to not always have perfect logic (how shocking...). Best to build...

Don't see why the actual PLs within the series need to be ignored. Power levels are mostly a non-factor after the Frieza Saga anyways. Fan-made PLs obviously hold no authority, so I can see where you're coming from if that's what you feel is the underlying issue. To be fair though, even the most...

I'm open to using the official multipliers universally, while also acknowledging that storyline battles may not always reflect the sheer magnitude of massive power differences. The Frieza Saga is when the series really popped off with insane jumps in power, and they never looked back ever...

Yeah, GT takes a bit of inspiration from the films in some ways too.

Pretty sure OP is referring to the movie version of Hirudegarn, in which he made his debut.