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Pilaf doesn't look like a guy that would partake in martial arts, but he's quite different from a standard dude, given his attempts at world domination and inevitably clashing with fighters like Goku along the way. I think it makes sense for him to know.

For example, if we take Buu out of the equation and Goku just went for a stroll in the city, would he garner attention? Kinda wild that this is a legit question despite him saving the planet several times. Thoughts?

A strong sense of hopelessness and brutality ought to get him going, like we saw with his reaction to Videl's beatdown until he was interrupted. If Dabura was strong enough to violently ragdoll Goku and Vegeta in front of him, then it's hard to imagine that won't do it.

The fact that your rant extends beyond the scope of this argument makes it crystal clear that you're worked up. And judging by the end of your paragraph, you're starting to realise that. You're entitled to your opinion, but if you're so bothered by me, why conversate with me? That's what's...

It's obvious. Writing a long-winded response in an attempt to sidestep facts certainly gives off that vibe. Of course you'll deny it but whatever. You have bigger things to worry about here than defending your mood. How is (1) Khabib knowing Tyson and (2) making use of his wrestling anything...

GT is a continuation of Z's storyline, so it makes sense that the GT PF retains a lot of information from other official sources. Don't see how this counters anything. - Zenkais were never assigned a multiplier value, so that's a false equivalency. - Considering the guidebook makes no mention...

You seem worked up over me pointing out basic logic. Would you mind defining prime Khabib? Referencing adversity that Tyson's boxing opponents faced against his power doesn't exactly mirror an MMA fighter vs boxer match like we have here. Khabib would have his own approach, so you're gonna need...

Not as concrete, yes, but a viable system to adopt above all others by the looks of it. The statement ought to be viewed through a critical lens due to what we know has been established of SSJ values, time and time again. If you want to just take it at face value, that choice is yours, but do...

Khabib already has the knowledge. The Tyson chosen for the fight doesn't, making this a new variable. While Tyson is quite different from anyone else Khabib has fought, this applies to both of them. It appears that the divide right now isn't about what either of them brings to the table, but...

The direct excerpt is "One theory is that it becomes as much as 50 times what it is normally". But even the one you dug out is suitable to serve my point too, so getting into semantics wouldn't help you in any meaningful way. What actually holds importance is that it was referenced at all in...

Tyson having intel introduces a variable that wasn't previously set. We can entertain it, but it brings your prior confidence into question. Pre-existing knowledge is better than none, but it's not inherently a game-changer. This is especially the case with Khabib, both in the cage and from...

Given that the 50x Super Saiyan multiplier is referenced in the GT Perfect Files, I'd argue that the statement you're referring to was an understatement and that nothing actually changed. Villains don't exactly have a good track record for judging the extent of Super Saiyan increases, like when...

Saying that Baby need not be that level doesn't really provide a counter argument. His own words give us reason to think he's the new benchmark. Vegito's level of competition wasn't even at Base Goku's level, and we saw how Base BV comfortably handled him in SSJ3. Your Jiren callback doesn't...

No need to get caught up in technicalities. Baby can be boasting and happen to also be right regardless of what he knows. It's a classic villain moment of declaring absolute superiority, which seems warranted in this case. Super Saiyan 3 is just a multiplier, and a state that Baby is well aware...

He's a sambo specialist, with competent striking. You can get an introduction into what he's about by his career highlights. Stylistically, he was a nightmare matchup for everyone in his division at the time, similar to his training partner Makhachev, the current lightweight champ.

Goku's statement can be true independent of Baby's quote. With Vegito, are you referring to the 'perhaps' greater than SSJ4 quote?

He retired 29-0. These days, he weighs over 200lbs and can train without having to worry about severe weight cutting like in his fighting days. Most sources list him as 5ft10 with 70 in reach.

The thing about Baby's quote is that it's extremely devalued if Vegito was the actual greatest of Saiyan power, but simply didn't show it all. Think about it this way. You have a racer that narrowly beats the fastest time on a circuit, then claims to be the best. Seems okay, in a vacuum...

Takedowns can be pretty quick, actually - even amongst two wrestling specialists. There isn't always an in-between moment of grappling. And grapplers, especially the top of the top, constantly think of ways to improve the position when there's resistance. If anything, a bigger concern would be...

Presently, I don't see why SSJ3 Vegito needs to be any higher than Baby Arc SSJ3 Goku, who in base form, could contend with guys ahead of Buu. Base Baby would have a fight on his hands; he lacks in skill, but could outlast the fusion. Super BV1 overwhelms him, with Vegito being a bit of a pest...