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Difficult to say since Buu Arc Gogeta never materialised, and GT Gogeta was busy flexing rather than going all out. If there is a difference, I'd probably lean to GT's gap being the bigger one.

It's better for people to post actual quotes instead of paraphrasing. @SIAD Tiering-wise, we know what range he falls into at bare minimum, and can deduce the possible heights of his power. That ought to give you a good idea of a ballpark estimate. Given that Gogeta's presense was brief and...

The first chain is possible. One way to think about it is the meta analysis of Godly ki compared to normal ki; particularly Beerus' perspective of the latter being inferior. Then of course there's the matter of looking at feats. In both of these areas, it brings God Goku (BoG Saga) into the...

It's quite a nuanced subject. Check out my post in the other thread.

An interesting narrative element that isn't often discussed is Beerus' view of: Godly ki > normal ki. It poses the question: is this due to the vessel carrying normal ki not being expected to have as much potential as a God (i.e. relatively speaking as opposed to a hard rule), or that normal...

It appears the main subject was resolved. Just want to chime in regarding Omega: His minus energy posed the urgent threat of laying waste to the Universe (i.e. all of the celestial bodies within this structure). Then additionally, he could focus this energy into a single point via the Negative...

The OG Dragon God, Shenron. How he came to be, his realm, and whether his impatience is trivial or not.

Universal to High Universal would be a suitable range for GT Gogeta. 4D or above would be uncalled for though.

@Natasha Romanoff It's abundantly clear that you're not down for a proper debate anymore. Your response demonstrates a blatant attempt at pivoting, relying on strawman, immature comebacks, and inaccurate observations. You got ragdolled and have nothing left in the tank, so your coping...

Yet again, you're unable to actually counter. No sense of coherency either. This doesn't weaken my argument. If anything, it reinforces it. Vegeta is capable of reading a situation and conversating before physical exertion comes into play. Great, I knew that from the start. The point flew...

None of this addresses my argument. You're essentially a walking fallacy at this point. Bulma's comparison was between Beerus and Vegeta. Since she was operating under the idea that Vegeta could take Beerus, the by-product of that line of thought is that Vegeta ought to be able to do better...

So you admit it's a generality? That's what can be inferred from your initial question. If so, then it'd be contradictory for you to call my position wrong. It's unnecessarily stubborn to argue with an objective observation. Saiyans may usually solve problems with their fists, but not always...

Stop waffling and prove that Vegeta's statement isn't a generality. Bulma was wrong, so this argument is illogical. Honestly one of the worst takes you've had. A verbal warning, as to not make himself appear as bad as the aggressor [Buu] and better adhere to the environment he was in...

You haven't given a valid reason as to why my premise is conflictive. Also, the fact that we're discussing the EVIDENCE that I presented would go against the idea that it's subjective. If you disagree, then provide an actual argument instead of lazily dismissing it as ridiculous. You're telling...

You admit that it's evidence. If you just stopped there, that would've sufficed. Yet you feel the need to give a biased analysis of why you don't like the evidence. When a scenario occurs that goes against typical behaviour, the scenario itself should be analysed. The scene demonstrates that...

Not trying to change anything. Simply presented evidence to prove my point. Your decision to push a strawman shows you can't counter. Didn't say that Beerus is equivalent to Buu. He doesn't need to be. When you look at the scene, we saw Vegeta chose words over violence. If you can't give...

What's with the "fight/confront" thing? The latter word was not part of my premise. Don't get it twisted. The Beerus example serves as evidence as to why Vegeta's statement doesn't need to be taken as an absolute. You personally wanting more evidence doesn't change that evidence has already...

You brought up Vegeta saying Saiyans solve problems with their fists. The counter-argument to that is that, evidently, that isn't always the case. Hence why Vegeta did a lot of talking and only fought as a last resort. You're focusing too much on speculation of WHY, instead of the FACT itself...

Vegeta makes no mention of fear in his statement. Keep your headcanon out of this; it holds no value. What Vegeta said was a generality at most, because he doesn't always try to fight, which the scene thoroughly exemplifies. It's important to distinguish between intention and desperation...

When was fear factored into Vegeta's statement? You're making rules as you go along. No reason for your input to be considered when there's no substance behind it. You're not thinking of the scene on a macro level. Fighting is a no-no in a civilised setting, and Vegeta seemed adamant about not...