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I think it ran its course though to be fair, but can see why nostalgia would kick in for some fans. As the competition got stiffer, so did the focus on what mattered.

So you pick and choose who the statement applies to? You're constantly moving the goal posts. The only thing to take-away from this is that Vegeta was in a tough spot no matter what he did. That doesn't mean it can't be concluded that talking would be less disruptive than fighting. Are you...

Yet, Vegeta opted to dance and cook before letting his fists fly. Beerus even called him a coward. This doesn't matter because Vegeta couldn't stop chaos from ensuing either way. He was screwed either way because Beerus was angry at that point. They were at Bulma's party; surely a verbal...

You have a hard time accepting facts. - A punishment does not inherently refer to fighting. Fact. - Vegeta wanted to avoid fighting and only engaged in combat due to Earth being at risk. Fact. - Power-wise, pre-enraged Vegeta did nothing significant in the plot. Fact. You need a dose of...

You've made this about supposed truth-telling, when in actuality it was just about Vegeta doing whatever it takes to stop the situation from escalating. If anything, the truth is Vegeta wanted him to leave Earth as soon as possible. He wouldn't dare to say that to Beerus because he knows that...

Would've been decent fan-service for some. But to have that happen only for him to still get shat on would be worse than what happened IMO.

Vegeta didn't punish Buu like he said he would though. You still consider his statement to be the truth? You're asking this question because you've established in your mind that Vegeta would never lie to Beerus. By doing that, you've boxed yourself into arguing for something that the storyline...

@Natasha Romanoff Vegeta's relationship to Goku isn't relevant. Does a punishment have to equate to a fight? Your view hinges on that idea, but you haven't backed that up with anything. What you're saying isn't absolutely invalid, but it's a semantic argument that doesn't seem to line up with...

Cell gets it done.

You're not considering the scene in its entirety. You're assuming that Vegeta intended to rough up Buu. You're entitled to your opinion, but brawling would cause a commotion, which is the opposite of what Vegeta wanted. That explains why Vegeta never followed through with fighting Buu, and...

This is a strange take... You acknowledge that Vegeta tried to avoid physical conflict with everyone including Buu, yet take his statement to mean he'll get into a fight to keep things calm? Sounds counterproductive. Vegeta was just saying and doing things to keep Beerus chill. Even going as...

Taking care of Buu doesn't have to refer to violence. Given the context of the scene, Vegeta didn't want things to get heated between anyone there. When Buu started fighting, Vegeta didn't attempt to stop him. Going with Buu.

OP said it's not about power gaps. I don't blame them either.

Both Gohan fights are more alike due to his mindset (i.e. serious, but lacking extreme urgency like with Goku) and also that he could maintain that dominance if Cell/Buu didn't have a way out, while Goku's output was limited. I'd say the Goku example reminds me more of Gohan's rage boost moments...

@Warmmedown Bulma has strong pull with CC, so if questioned about Vegeta, she'd tell them that he's not an enemy. Capsule Corp also tends to be left alone when crazy stuff happens; for example, Shenron was deemed as just another one of their scientific experiments when summoned from their...

@Warmmedown It'd be understandable if the story went down the route that you're describing. Though I have a question that we may have very different takes on. Do you think this would significantly change the series?

The idea of keeping Vegeta or other super-powered fighters under long-term surveillance was executed, just by a mad scientist rather than the government. Though the latter is a popular trope of the western superhero genre. When it comes to the more up-close examples of super strength, like with...

Gohan's rage is generally treated as a wild card. Outside of that, the perception of his power, in a long-term sense, is only ever analysed idealistically. E.g. "if he kept up his training then he'd be 'X' strong" is essentially what it comes down to since he can't be relied on to do it. I don't...

That's a fair insight, ahill. When you think about it, it works out well for the Z Fighters since they don't have to deal with the press and be constantly the talk of the town. At worst, they could always blitz out of a situation, but then their character would be called into question. I think...

This goes to show that having an established legacy in the martial arts community is one thing, but worldwide reach and influence -- like Hercule has -- is another. Mr. Satan, as a brand, is levels above. Interesting that you characterise him as mundane considering he's usually presented as...