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  1. Spiral-Force

    Is the DragonBall GT ending soooooooooooooooo sad?

    The ending is generally considered to be one of the strong moments of the series. Or to word it differently, one of the more 'tolerable' parts. When a story reaches it's farewell stage, there's a smaller window for error since the writer can rely on nostalgia & call-backs, and has more freedom...
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    Favourite DragonBall moments

    To be fair, DBZ was its own beast with how it left an imprint on popular culture. That's why loads of fans and even non-fans can recall a bunch of Z moments with barely any knowledge about the original show. What you're saying rings true for people like us who know both series entirely and can...
  3. Spiral-Force

    Favourite DragonBall moments

    Those hype moments is largely why DBZ became so iconic. The extensive world-building also makes you realise that the first series only scratched the surface as to what's out there. In that sense, it took things to the next level.
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    Favourite DragonBall moments

    ^ Since Z was brought up, may as well ask this now: @Fantastische Hure Is there any aspect of DBZ that you prefer to DB? You seem so fond of the original, so just curious.
  5. Spiral-Force

    Favourite DragonBall moments

    Kid Goku vs Roshi ought to be mentioned; well-choreographed and a valuable learning experience for Goku. Also liked how serious things got later on with Krillin's death and the King Piccolo situation in general.
  6. Spiral-Force

    Gohan SSJ2 (CG) vs Hatchyack + Perfect Cell + Broly LSSJ (M8) + Super Bojack?

    @SIAD By the way, the Popeye part is so out-of-nowhere and comical. Nice one.
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    Gohan SSJ2 (CG) vs Hatchyack + Perfect Cell + Broly LSSJ (M8) + Super Bojack?

    Fights like this is where feats really shine through in determining the outcome, since statements to do with character comparisons can be a grey area because of the different timelines. Dealing with a Solar System Level being should be a cake walk for Broly given what happened in the film.
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    Do characters move sideways?

    Making it that specific invites the question: how significant is that? Because DB fighters have a lot more overall freedom and versatility in how they can move and attack. For example, being able to evade a ground attack and setup a ki blast counter from mid-air. If a character is struggling...
  9. Spiral-Force

    Do characters move sideways?

    In terms of head movement, Vegeta vs Pui Pui immediately comes to mind. For whole body movement, can think of a few moments where Gohan and Krillin dodged blasts from Frieza. It'd be more noticeable if characters didn't move so quickly that it looks like they're teleporting.
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    Why I’m No Longer A Dragon Ball Fan

    I actually see that as a plus since it gives respect to Buu's power. A quality that Buu had (especially Super Buu and Kid Buu) is that they posed a threat even to those that could, in theory, supposedly finish them. That's why Goku encouraged everyone to train in case they have to go through...
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    Why I’m No Longer A Dragon Ball Fan

    A lot of people don't like the idea of Goku prioritising training Uub over spending time with his family. Though on a character level, it's such a Goku thing to do. Being a mentor to the younger generation was a seed planted back in the Cell Arc, with the risky bet on Gohan. Then carried over...
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    One of the most under-rated moments

    A solid demonstration of inner will. That type of theme was present on some level in each arc. With how important power and grit is within the series as a collective, you kinda become accustomed to the toughness we see time and time again.
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    Gogeta SSJ4 (DBGT) + Goku (EoGT) + Goku (Universal Spirit Bomb vs. Omega Yi Xing Long) vs. Golden Frieza (FNF)?

    A case can be made either way as far as strength is concerned, but that's still just one aspect of battle. Going with Frieza due to how opportunistic he is as a combatant. He's not limited by morality and is willing to destroy entire structures when things don't go his way.
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    What is the 1st DBS character to surpass Gogeta SSJ4 (DBGT)?

    Well he was titled as a God of Destruction. There's also two parts to what Omega could do with that energy. - The passive effect: spreading it across the cosmos to rid of everything. Note: Remember how some of Cell's absorption victims would seem depleted and then just disappear? Seems that...
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    What is the 1st DBS character to surpass Gogeta SSJ4 (DBGT)?

    I get what you're saying, but it's usually the end of GT that people focus on to make their case. In terms of earlier stuff, I've seen people bring up Goku collapsing Sugoroku Space as a key feat of power, but the size of that area wasn't expressed; we just know that it's part of the Universe...
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    What is the 1st DBS character to surpass Gogeta SSJ4 (DBGT)?

    To be fair, the Buuhan thing is a non-issue. His manga self didn't have the same rage that caused that phenomenon, and it was later pointed out that it's not a feat he could just recreate. On top of that, the threat he posed was more of a domino effect than direct destruction. The gripe you...
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    What is the 1st DBS character to surpass Gogeta SSJ4 (DBGT)?

    Analysing the DC & AP of a character acts as a good baseline for what they can do. While you may interpret that as nerd stuff, this type of thinking is quite natural among average fans as well, e.g. "wow he just blew up 'X' or "of course he can beat 'Y', he destroyed a 'Z'. Sure, works of...
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    Gap between Goku (60,000) on Recoome vs Kid Gohan SSJ2 on Perfect Cell (FP)?

    Gauging precise gaps like these often isn't an ideal endeavour or worth dwelling on. They really went the extra mile to demonstrate how powerless Cell was though. Not that that confirms anything, but it does stand out.
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    Vegetto SSJ3 (Arc Boo) vs Baby Vegeta Golden Monkey?

    Baby squashes the life out of him.
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    How do the following characters from DBGT compare to those from DBS Anime?

    1-4 would all be useful assets within the Tournament of Power, handling skirmishes with average fighters and providing good back up for the top dogs. 5-8 ought to gain some props and intrigue from the likes of Beerus, and arouse attention from the elite of the ToP. 9-10 may potentially be able...
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