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    Super Perfect Cell VS SSJ2 Gohan

    While Gohan was in need of external motivation, I think Cell's attitude was a roadblock for him also; he was too high off that power. Goes either way IMO.
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    How The Fandom Has Evolved

    At the core, there have been two main categories: (1) casual fans, and (2) fans that like to dig into things a bit more; powers, plot, characterization, and so on. However, there's plenty more resources compared to before. Category 1, for example, has spawned reaction channels capable of...
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    Which DB invention would imrprove the world the most?

    Even outside of what Hector mentioned, given that robbery storylines wouldn't be of much interest in a show like this, there was no incentive to explore or thoroughly establish capsule laws, potentially opening up issues related to ownership. Could setbacks be resolved? Possibly. But it's...
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    How Strong Is Boo Saga Tenshinhan’s Shin Kikoho?

    I could see it being stronger than before since his training has got to account for something, right? But wouldn't say it alters his tier though.
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    Does saiyan armour give any defensive boost? How does it work? Why did 530,000 Freeza wear saiyan armour?

    Besides a bit of a defensive boost, it helps with not looking as rowdy after a hard fought battle like gi wearers. I think characters like Vegeta are a bit more aware of things like that. It'd also be odd to see someone like Frieza in martial arts clothes IMO.
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    Goku SSJ3 (M12) vs Gotenks SSJ (Post)?

    Would be hard not to give it to Goku, since he was at least front and centre in the main battle, while Gotenks had no comparable challenge. Maybe if Gotenks goes SSJ3 it'd be a fun fight, but Goku seems more amped in this era of the films compared to the normal timeline, while with Gotenks it's...
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    Techniques that others should have learnt?

    A way to further refine Spirit Bomb formation, perhaps. Watching a spent Goku managing to evade or withstand dangerous assaults for ages is hard to take seriously, as much as we want him to succeed.
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    Would you say Vegeta's character regressed in earlier Boo arc?

    It just wasn't an exciting heel turn IMO. "Here we go again..." sums up that fiasco.
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    Why the fuck is Tenshinhan partying, having a barbecue in Bulma's house and all?

    Let's divide it like this: primary and secondary Primary - Tien deliberately being away Perhaps he feels like a burden? Although he showed up in CG, he declined RoSaT training, and often describes how other fighters are levels above him. Imagine someone you were competitive with at some stage...
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    Why the fuck is Tenshinhan partying, having a barbecue in Bulma's house and all?

    I guess optically, it's just nice to have a lot of the old school characters together in a peaceful period, allowing for fans to reminisce on earlier times. Although he popped up once in a while, his principle was still largely in affect. Just got a little less strict about it I suppose.
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    Do you think this quote implies AT originally intended to give Cell's character more depth?

    That manga page should remind folks that Cell is composed of warriors whose lives revolve around power. PC's interest lied in finding ways to flex his power, essentially. He shut down Gohan's attempt at talking things out.
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    Gotenks SSJ (POst Rosat) vs Súper Janemba (FP)?

    Don't see what Gotenks could possibly do in this situation. Janemba.
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    What power did Goku expect from Gohan against Cell?

    Prior to the CG era, Gohan's power spikes from rage offered some resistance to the enemy briefly and he got props from his teammates, but it was hardly backed as a central strategy. It seems Goku was banking on power that could be recreated - like a tangible change.
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    Was Cell a good and complex villain?

    When a character claims to be perfect, and places value on the ability to destroy, you'd think they'd at least have power that covers all spaces as a rough starting point. That way, they're not limited (as far as they know), but the possibility remains for them to be overcome especially if...
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    Was Cell a good and complex villain?

    It appears Cell thought himself Perfect full stop. I think it's possible for him to think that, while -- us, as the audience -- can look back and recognise that his claim was a hard sell given where he caps at + how far we know scaling can go.
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    Was Cell a good and complex villain?

    The concept of a perfect being is something that could go every which way. But given the nature of the series, his trajectory could be seen coming. The perfection narrative is meh in retrospect, because -- regardless of him being bested -- he only ended up being Solar System level.
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    Perfect Cell vs Super Buu (equal power levels, Cell knows Instant Transmission)

    A good back and forth takes place, but Cell likely falls. Both are demons when it comes to equal PL fights, but Buu moreso.
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    Did Toei Broly care about Paragus?

    A bit, but as Broly got more psycho overtime -- treating the cosmos as a playground -- that care teetered. The restrain device put on Broly allowed them to stick together, albeit in an inorganic way. Judging from Paragus' interactions with others: for the most part, he had an ability to be...
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    Did Kaio-Shin in the Boo-saga fulfil the same role that Future-Trunks did in the Cell-saga?

    Broadly, yes; being the gateway to the antagonist(s) that that they luckily survived. Not to mention the trauma of those they were fond of getting trounced and put out. Though Kaioshin didn't come across as someone that intended to surpass Buu or have strength-building aspirations in general...
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    Ultimate Gohan + Goku SSJ3 vs Gotenks Boo?

    If Buutenks sticks to the mind game/playfulness route like in canon, then the team might get some combos in, but get steamrolled all the same.
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