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  1. Spiral-Force

    How strong was the Kamehameha that Gohan Base launched at Super # 17?

    It's likely that Majuub wasn't going all out at first, like the rest. When Vegeta and co. transformed, you can see Majuub powering up as well.
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    Vegetto SSJ3 (Boo) vs SBV2?

    In the Baby/Uub fight, we aren't given a reason to believe that anything other than the Revenge Death Ball itself was getting further powered up. In the Baby/Goku fight, we know that he himself got a power increase because he obtained his final form. Besides each of Baby's transformation boosts...
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    Vegetto SSJ3 (Boo) vs SBV2?

    I see. It could be that Goku's mind was playing tricks on him due to perspective/distance. He didn't say it with certainty. All power statements surrounding Baby's restoration point towards him regaining his strength, rather than hitting a new ceiling of potency.
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    Vegetto SSJ3 (Boo) vs SBV2?

    I still can't find the first statement you're referring to about growth. Can you post it or give a timestamp at least? Regarding the second statement, Goku was being boastful because of his full power SSJ4 state. He didn't find Baby to be as threatening as before despite him technically being...
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    Vegetto SSJ3 (Boo) vs SBV2?

    When did Goku say Golden Oozaru Baby increased in size?
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    Vegetto SSJ3 (Boo) vs SBV2?

    You have to take into account that Goku was under the impression that he himself had gotten stronger and that he stood a chance of winning. Then reality struck, and it was proven that there was no change in Goku's battle power. Therefore, Baby was indeed "too strong" for him. It would be quite...
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    Vegetto SSJ3 (Boo) vs SBV2?

    It seems like it was just a way of boosting his blast at that point, as opposed to his overall stats.
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    Vegetto SSJ3 (Boo) vs SBV2?

    Judging from the scenes, the SBV1 power-up was the combined ki of Baby-infested Gohan, Trunks, Goten, and Bulla. The SBV2 power-up was the combined ki of regular Baby-infested earthlings by the looks of it. In other words, quality vs quantity.
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    which genre would u assign to each saga of dragon-ball? (if u can & want to say)

    In addition to your list: Folklore fits in with the Hunt for the Dragon Balls Arc, considering the introduction of wish-granting orbs and the dragon god. Fantasy is definitely applicable to the Buu Arc with factors like magic, sorcery, possession, etc. playing key parts in the plot.
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    Vegeta's statement "Since when is the difference between Kakaroto and me so great"?

    In that case, to answer the question: It's doubtful that Vegeta was thinking that specifically. He was just taken aback by how much wider the gap between him and Goku became, which was already quite significant. Vegeta tends to have heated moments when Goku achieves a transformation above his...
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    how did freeza...

    It's just the more cautious side of Frieza being brought to the surface there. Despite his arrogance, he did still feel that the Saiyans have bottomless potential.
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    could captain-ginyu's change...

    Don't see why it wouldn't work (as in, the change itself). Of course, Ginyu would have to be incredibly sneaky in attempting to pull it off.
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    Gohan vs Dabra

    Overall, as per Goku's commentary, Dabura > Cell.
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    Gohan vs Dabra

    In pure strength, Gohan was superior, as portrayed by their fight. Dabura still had confidence he can beat Gohan afterwards, but he's not a being that needs to rely on physical aptitude to win a battle.
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    Final Flash vs USSJ Trunks

    Trunks may survive, but he'd be in worse fighting condition than Cell, ultimately.
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    Vegetto SSJ3 (Boo) vs SBV2?

    The narrative points towards SBV1 becoming the Saiyan top dog when he first appeared, putting him above what we saw of the previous #1 (SSJ Vegito). Going from SSJ to SSJ3 would give Vegito an 8x boost, as per the SEG multipliers. As for Baby, his presence as SBV1 was short lived and he was...
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    XXX vs XXX

    With no tension whatsoever, a 20x Kaioken should be doable and maintainable. As dominant as SBV2 was over SSJ3 Goku, the gap doesn't need to be close to 20 fold, so Goku ought to win comfortably. SSJ4 Gogeta (Shadow Dragon Saga) runs the DBS manga gauntlet. Scenario 1: His time limit is in...
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    MCU Versus

    I get what you're saying, but I wouldn't call it a disservice. Considering the film was already over 3 hours long, including that character arc would run the risk of being rushed or half-hearted, so it's understandable that it was left out. The Mark 1 suit was quite a tank, but its mobility was...
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    MCU Versus

    Thor, quite clearly. Banner actually made progress by combining his intellect with the Hulk's strength. He also played a very important part in Endgame by using the stones to bring everyone back. Not only did Thor become out of shape, but he practically gave up on who he was until Professor...
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