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I think that could be the case. I'm more inclined to think yes than no.

#2 Vegeta uses the timeframe "In years past" or something like that. So he was thinking of them being stronger than himself at the time of their confrontation not compared to his current power level.

No mention of Broly's power. Just that he loses control when he fights. The context Goku is using is that Broly is getting better at controlling his mind during combat.

I believe Vegeta had SS2 before he became Majin. It just put him higher into the SS2 tier than he was already. Gohan was a rusty SS2 who trained for a day and sat on his butt for hours on end and went from low SS2 tier to SS3+ tier. Gohan jumped into an entire new bracket of power. Verdict = Old...

SSB Goku/Vegeta+ Omega Shenron is universal. SS4 Gogeta was able to giga-stomp him while holding back a lot and playing around. SS4 Gogeta can bust universal threats like Omega with no problem. If Gogeta were to become serious and fight at full power it would require SSB or more to beat him or...

The same thing I always think, Feats > Statements. Koyama also said things like: - "I am not the original author, Akira Toriyama, so I can not answer." - "I don't have the data that quantifies the fighting power of all the characters that appear in DB at all times, so I can't conclude." - "If...

For example, Cell says he has the power to blow away a solar system with his Kamehameha. Meanwhile, Broly destroys 1/4 of the galaxy in his suppressed state. In comparison, our own galaxy, there is 3,916 solar systems. Divide by 4 = 979 solar systems destroy by Broly while in his restrained...

But not under the same context. Goku chose to 1v1 Kid Buu and says he could beat him if he hadn't dragged out the fight. Meanwhile, the same Goku didn't want anything to do with the Super Buu variants. Both may have beat Goku/Vegeta but Buuhan straight up turned Goku to looking for a plan and...

Vegeta had some kind of hand in killing every member of the Ginyu force. He had to complete the set.

Buuhan > Kid Buu Feats > Statements The only reason there is an argument is because of statements that imply Kid Buu is stronger. However, they are contradicted by feats that show us that Buuhan is clearly stronger.

In the movie, Goku says that Hatchiyack is stronger than Broly. That's pretty cut and dry. Both Hatchiyack and Broly have better feats that would put them above Perfect Cell.

Hatchiyack > M8 Broly > Perfect Cell I'm surprised there's debate on this. I thought this one had a consensus.

I don't think so. CG Piccolo fought comparable to Vegeta/Future Trunks in the Cell Games. So in order for Vegeta to be above Piccolo in base he would have had to multiple his power by > 50x to be able to beat Piccolo in base. In addition to the gains Piccolo made in the 7 year jump. The same...

I have always thought it has to be their SSB forms. Piccolo groups Goku and Vegeta together when making this statement. Meaning, he sees them as close in power to each other. The only shared transformation they have is SSB. They couldn't be grouped together in other arcs since Goku always ended...

Getting blown to bits by a planet doesn't sound very natural to me. I think natural was more like dying of old age. Not getting taken out by nature itself.

Yes, I think so. In the anime, during the Buu Saga, when Vegeta turns Majin, his aura knocks base Gohan on his rear. If it has the power to blow back Base Gohan, who's power is in the millions, I would venture to say it would likely do damage or more likely worse to a human.

Videl gets smashed by Spopovich seemed like it was doing a good job of pissing him off.

The Janemba fight is after Buu has happened. Goku and Vegeta should be as strong or stronger than their Buu Saga selves. This Gogeta should be about the same power as the Vegito who smashed Buuhan. So this Gogeta should clear.