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We don't know what they're using. It's something they learned from Oden but we haven't been given enough clues on what that is.

In what instance?

No if it was outward Haki, Luffy would just be sent flying back like with Sentomaru. His fist wouldn’t be in pain like that.

Well that's pretty impressive still since Luffy passed out from 1 ragnarok.

Their fists are physically touching though.

Law survived those attacks just fine. Sanji can’t?

What is level 2?

Yes I can't wait for the inevitable Law vs Sanji.

Look at it like this. Sanji now has Germa enhancements that gives him a permanent iron body, which even had fodder think it was CoA. Well Sanji can now further enhance his newfound durability with CoA, boosting it much further still. To top it all off, his Raid suit already acts as defensive...

You think he had that title before God Valley?

Fair enough, but you didn't address the main crux of my argument. ''Whitebeard attained the title of ''strongest in the world'' well before the great age of pirates, as he had immense power and ability that could destroy the world''. This either means that nobody in the world surpassed him...

Didn't Garp almost kill Roger many times? Also Whitebeard is called the strongest man alive even back then, so I'd assume in most cases he'd beat Roger.

That would be Garp actually.

No that's just how strong I think Whitebeard is.

2nd team.

To overthrow the WG yeah. I don’t see him surviving it though.

Well I think he's set to fight Dragon in the future and have a feeling he's going to win that fight. That's just me though. I don't think he necessarily has to be 2nd strongest or whatever but I think he's like top 5.

How strong do you think Dragon is? I don't think BB is worth addressing since only assumptions could be made about him currently.

Kaido - Worlds Strongest Creature (Pirate) Akainu - Fleet Admiral (Marine) Mihawk - Worlds Strongest Swordsman (Warlord) You can't deny that it fits like a puzzle and also it's hard to see Mihawk being the strongest person working for the World Government. There has to be SOMEONE that could...

I'm not even joking I think he's like the 2nd strongest character right now behind Kaido.