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I don't like him, but don't hate him either.

For simplicity sake: Goku: 1 Kamehameha: 2.5 Broly: 5.52 Vegeta: 1 Final Flash: 3.16 Hatchiyack: 5.87

It's weird, saiyans are uncomprehensive, but saiyans also hate to work and he would infinitely prefer that than to work? I don't undertand much, either. Also, maybe he recovered his saiyan instincts, he probably could have realized that he could reach new heights and he would train as much as...

I haven't changed my mind when it comes to Cooler, and that's why I left here the list I have: https://dbzeta.net/threads/my-theory-about-coolers-power.24971/ This is also based on this lists: https://dbzeta.net/threads/my-namek-saga-to-perfect-cell-arc-gaps.24955/...

@SSJ2 On the first point, you might be right. Cell having to brace himself is weird, but it could also bring to the table the possibility of him considering those attacks a threat to him, he could just leave his arms and left himself wide open in order to show off power, and this scene could...

The only placement in which I'm not sure is in making the Genkidama = SSJ Vegetto, but it takes a massive gap to obliterate every single cell of Buu, specially when it comes to Kid Buu. On top of having energy from Ultimate Gohan.

Goku = 600 SSJ = 30,000 SSJ2 (burst) = 78,750 SSJ2 = 90,000 SSJ3 (holding back) = 300,000 SSJ3 = 360,000 Vegeta = 500 SSJ = 25,000 SSJ2 = 75,000 Gohan = 400 SSJ = 20,000 SSJ2 = 60,000 Goten = 240 SSJ = 12,000 Kid Trunks = 250 SSJ = 12,500 Android 18 = 355.68 Piccolo = 393.75 Dabura (Goku...

And Cell over Trunks too.

How do you have those two gaps?

Movie 8 Broly Goku = 4,823 Kamehameha = 12,057 Broly = 25,000 Hatchiyack OVA Vegeta = 11,200 Final Flash = 27,191 Hatchiyack = 50,400

Which gap is bigger?

Goku has already know that Vegeta has gotten quite stronger and that's why he would be excited, but during the Gohan vs Dabura fight seems to me that Goku has already forgotten about his rematch with Vegeta? This despite of knowing that he only had 1 day available: He also had no qualms in...

Cell over Goku. Gohan and Cell were basically equals with none of them being actually superior. EDIT: I misunderstood the thread. Gohan vs Cell (pre true spd) is definitely greater.

Goku doesn't seem surprised when SSJ2 Gohan emerged and he motivated Gohan to show the power they obtained by training in the Rosat when he had just one arm, so he always probably knew about it.

While this is true, it was also disrespectful for Vegeta when he find out that he was hiding that power and considered everything else an excuse. Goku also knows that Gohan can fare pretty well on his own against Dabura. Goku never cared about Vegeta, but Vegeta is the one who is obsessive for...

That doesn't answer the question.

How much damage could it have dealt on Perfect Cell?

But not in the manga.

He wouldn't be annoyed of something he knows would not affect him, while being Imperfect Cell he incited Piccolo to give everything he got and we see the result. Same with him giving time to Vegeta to his Final Flash thinking it wouldn't affect him. It can be, but he also could have expected...

I think you mean Daizenshuu?