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If Base Gogeta is above Ssj Blue Goku, Vegeta and Golden Freeza from DBS: Broly (which I don't think he is), then, I can think that he can pass the three rounds for sure with ease. And if Gogeta could beat Vegetto Blue (which seems unlikely to me), he definitely gets clapped by Suppressed Jiren...

No. The only thing about this is that Gohan emit a less powerful prescence than SSJ3 Goku, not because he was weaker. Anyways, since canon Goku vs Movie 12 Goku topic is solved, there's no other reason to folllow this. Of course, Janemba never powered up other than transforming. Semi Perfect...

And? Nobody was putting effort or trying to sense SSJ3 Goku on Kaioshin realm, Gohan was focused on training, but he, Shin and Kibito immediately sensed him while not trying to do so. Piccolo, Goten and Trunks were never able to do so because Gohan's ki wasn't that powerful to do so, only Super...

I am talking about Kaioshin realm. Gotenks was just about of being to base form and Buu was static as a stone. Nobody was doing anything on Kaioshin Realm other than Gohan training, but then Goku's ki shocked everyone on Kaioshin Realm even though, they weren't focused or trying to sense ki...

Nobody was focused on Goku when he transformed into SSJ3, yet his ki was strong enough to call their attention on Kaioshin Realm, so, everyone on Earth theorically could be able to sense Gohan's ki even if they don't want to, yet only Super Buu could sense him from that far. I agree, Movie 12...

His ki was still sensible, though. Super Buu commented that Gohan is the one who is stronger than him after that brief period, whether it is momentary or not is irrelevant. Are you also willing to believe that Goku > Super Buu? Point is, that Buu Saga Goku can't be stronger than Movie 12 Goku...

Going by non-linear feats, SSJ3 Goku was sensed by many people on the Kaioshin Realm whereas nobody other than Super Buu could sense Ultimate Gohan on Earth during his 1st power burst on Kaioshin realm, yet, SSJ3 Goku is not stronger than Ultimate Gohan. Buu Saga Goku ain't stronger than Movie...

Goku's blows makes more damage to Freeza than Freeza's attacks to Goku, but that can also be justified due to the fact that Freeza had an even greater strain than Goku. Goku and Freeza were also trading blows during most of the fight, so Goku's advantage was a minimum one and both were pretty...

I am assuming this is just about Base Goku and doesn't include Kaioken Goku. Initial Base Goku and initial 4th form Freeza (in which Piccolo said that none of them were giving their all) were evenly matched with each other, but Freeza had techniques that were pretty dangerous such as Telekinesis...

But, if I'm not mistaken, Koyama is just involved with the DBZ anime and has no authority over the manga. Isn't that right?

Difficult to know as Vegetto just appeared and then went straight to SSJ. Unless you want to take Vegetto being the combination of the strongest due to being made by rivals into meaning that SSJ Vegetto is stronger than Gokhan, which also wouldn't benefit his base form alone. Is also difficult...

Zamasu being weakened is possible, but not definitive: 1- Zamasu can't keep up anymore with Vegetto's speed, something which is pointed out by Vegetto himself. As well as how strength and speed are remarked as a pack in attributes in some instances such as Vegeta stating how fast and heavy the...

I don’t know what are you trying to argue, yes, in the manga Toyotaro can choose to do whatever he wants, but in the anime is different. In the manga, Merged Zamasu can be awfully weak, but that doesn’t affect his anime counterpart at all, Merged Zamasu in the manga is far weaker than a God of...

Buu Saga SSJ Goku is stronger (but not by much) than Cell Games SSJ Gohan, whereas Cell even before reaching his Full Power is above said Gohan. Cell also told Goku that his Kamehameha trick wouldn't work anymore, so that's also not a viable option.

Hard to tell, but from what I've seen people give too much credit to Goku for giving his ass against Merged Zamasu, of course, I'm not denying that Goku could've gotten stronger, but saying that he made unquantifable gains. From what I've seen is pretty much difficult to make a comparison in...

But you were cherrypicking instances to make it appear like it was the same. Or simply means casualities and on top of that, we talk about a company that can make new scenes or at least hardly does. Even though I can agree on you with this, nothing indicates that Gogeta wouldn't be able to...

Janemba doesn't make anything that can worry Gogeta the way Buu does with Gohan, though. Also, there are major differences as both fights doesn't even began in the same way and has differences in between (as well as scenes that in one instance happened whereas in the other one not):

How this is supposed to make a potential comparison is beyond me, also you should've waited for your Anime/Movie comparison when it comes to Movie 12. Gogeta vs Janemba is big enough for a tanking gap to happen, nothing indicates Gohan vs Buu is. On top of that, one of them has already proved...

I don't think Toei was thinking of establishing Gogeta a limit or comparing him with other character in terms of power, my esteemed, actually the only thing I think they were thinking is Gogeta being the strongest and shows how he is by a solid margin. Gogeta easily dispatched Janemba and...

What are you trying to say?