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@Kenshi Except that Dabura is not a saiyan which means that he doesn't have zenkais neither got stronger through fighting alone. Lol, you gotta have a pretty low IQ level to assume things about other ones that you don't even know XD.

Ah yes, Vegeta also gone back to SSJ to knock back Trunks and Goten, even though, Majin Buu could've appeared at any point and had already massacred him, Vegeta only went SSJ2 against Kid Buu in the beginning when he was throwing blasts at him and went SSJ back even though he has to resist his...

Vegeta didn't have lightning for many panels but you came with headcanon such as he went SSJ because there was no threat but was searching for Majin Buu, SPC didn't have lightning during the beam struggle with Gohan, but obviously Cell had a far shorter appearance. Because objectively those are...

As well as that we've seen how Goku had sparkier hair without electricity in the manga, so it's not an absolute requirement to have those traits. Even then, the only way in which your argument can remotely make any sense is if we assume that Goku = Gohan in terms of appearance. This is where...

My bad, I meant after the first trip and not after the second. Answering your question, well I consider that Trunks could've made gains in relation to his prior self from the arc but is not Blue lvl yet, he is not Blue lvl until he reaches SSJ Rage. But Trunks is pretty much a character too...

I mean after the 2nd trip. Episode 57 is inconsistent and/or its power scalling wasn't given any importance after that.

I agree. Quantity > quality And that an in-universe character doesn't notice that much of a change, therefore from a story viewpoint it's pretty much meaningless to judge. So, just because he was given electricity is to represent him to being relevant? Toriyama could've just not give any...

Lol, what? In this panel, Gohan has basically the same hair as SSJ Gohan when we don't see his face despite of being a SSJ2. In total, there are 20-21 panels in which Gohan had no lightning during the Cell Games, yet he is a SSJ2. I am talking about Goku's confrontation with Fat Buu lol: I...

Logically, Trunks is treated as someone irrelevant before of reaching SSJ Rage. He doesn't add that much to the equation. I agree, but that doesn't mean is inconsistent in everything, at least not when it comes to how Goku, Vegeta and Black compare to each other.

He never made an effort on putting electricity on either SSJ2 Gohan or SPC during the Cell Games, like for 17 panels, Gohan doesn't have electricity. Also, what was he thinking when he wrote through Babidi that he didn't notice a change in between SSJ and SSJ2 Goku's transformations?

So, you are accepting that the argument of art doesn't make sense and is not indicative of Gohan being either a SSJ or SSJ2?

17 stated that 18 can't probably handle them all at once, but Vegeta stated that everyone that has come were trash, I think Vegeta holds more weight on this as 18 proved to be able to tank SSJ Trunks' sword without effort (as well as he said it at a point in which none of them were giving their...

In this panel, Vegeta had a less intense aura despite of being a SSJ2: Of course, I am not saying that Gohan was a SSJ2. But the argument of art has always been inconsistent.

In all of these panels, Vegeta doesn't have electricity, as well as the one you send me and I had already showed it:

Except that Grade 3 is not an option in all of this, as well as it looks buffed, without counting that everyone knows that is an transformation that doesn't work as sacrifices speed for power and has a great strain Vegeta while knocking Trunks down and Goten doesn't have electricity. On top of...

I don't think Vegeta suddenly depowered just to knock out his kid and Goten when Buu could've come at any moment who was about to kill him moments prior: Well in fights of similar levels they're not going to damage themselves if they don't try that much unless they go at a great intensity...

There's no reason for that, once Vegeta ate the senzu he was searching for Majin Buu. Vegeta was actively a SSJ2 the whole time unless there's a statement saying his ki diminished (when there's none).

If Dabura was SPC level, he would've defeated SSJ2 Gohan with ease. A single blast from Super Perfect Cell injured SSJ2 Kid Gohan heavily.

I'm not saying that Gohan was a SSJ2, but if it were for lighting or the design the argument lacks of sense: SSJ2 Goku & Majin Vegeta lacks of lightning in the second part of this panel.

If Gohan was just a SSJ, that's definitely the conclusion.