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  1. Natasha Romanoff

    Do you think Future Trunks vs Dabura (in both medias) just goes on to show that Dabura was really intended to be on Cell's level?

    Hard to know what would’ve happened if Vegeta wouldn’t have been impatient and/or if Dabura hadn’t realized Vegeta maliciousness at tha point, the fight wasn’t that prolongued and they were just beginning to attack themselves and not attacking at a great intensity to actually damage themselves...
  2. Natasha Romanoff

    Do you think Future Trunks vs Dabura (in both medias) just goes on to show that Dabura was really intended to be on Cell's level?

    The fight could have lasted a few time considering that we barely get to see some of their movements and then the fight ended, is like we never get to see the real deal but the one who looked better was Dabura. I think the fact that the fight ended like that just goes on to show that the one...
  3. Natasha Romanoff

    Do you think Future Trunks vs Dabura (in both medias) just goes on to show that Dabura was really intended to be on Cell's level?

    If Dabura thinks he can win the contest for stamina issues, it doesn't make sense for him to claim that Gohan wouldn't be hard to dispose, while previously he didn't show any superiority to him. His words also holds some merit as during the fight itself we have seen how Dabura was soft in his...
  4. Natasha Romanoff

    Do you think Future Trunks vs Dabura (in both medias) just goes on to show that Dabura was really intended to be on Cell's level?

    My bad, Dabura called Vegeta the perfect fighter: Dabura is pretty arrogant and considered himself the strongest in the universe, heck, he even had no problem fighting all the three saiyans at once, do you think he is going to use all of his effort against the weakest of the three? If one was...
  5. Natasha Romanoff

    Do you think Future Trunks vs Dabura (in both medias) just goes on to show that Dabura was really intended to be on Cell's level?

    Dabura knew that Vegeta would be the best fighter and had already discovered that Vegeta had maliciousness on his side who can be manipulated by Babidi, as well as they can use him to revive Buu. No, I'm not saying he had that big of a lead. And because he thinks by himself that he can do...
  6. Natasha Romanoff

    Do you think Future Trunks vs Dabura (in both medias) just goes on to show that Dabura was really intended to be on Cell's level?

    Ah yes, then Dabura thinks of defeating Gohan, even though, he couldn't prior and wanted Vegeta to do the things for him, but now he is fully confident as he is and doesn't think much of Gohan.
  7. Natasha Romanoff

    Do you think Future Trunks vs Dabura (in both medias) just goes on to show that Dabura was really intended to be on Cell's level?

    His magic didn't served to that purpose initially, he wasn't even able to injure him, let alone kill him, in this scene he is completely confident on killing him. This is without saying that his saliva didn't also as he quitted his glove and Gohan was also able to destroy his sword.
  8. Natasha Romanoff

    Do you think Ultimate Gohan vs Super Buu share more in common with SSJ2 Kid Gohan vs Perfect Cell or Kaioken x3 Goku vs Vegeta?

    Okay, but this is not a post related to power gaps, but to style art and how the fight is based.
  9. Natasha Romanoff

    Do you think Ultimate Gohan vs Super Buu share more in common with SSJ2 Kid Gohan vs Perfect Cell or Kaioken x3 Goku vs Vegeta?

    This is not a thread related to power gaps. Cell decided to explode himself, as well as Super Buu. In the case of Cell because he obviously stand no chance and Buu to dissapear so his plan of absorbing Gotenks can work, although Gohan explained that he couldn't have been able to stop him if...
  10. Natasha Romanoff

    Fat Boo (SSJ2 Majin Vegeta absorbed) vs. SSJ Pre Rosat Gotenks

    Is doubtful and up to interpretation to think that Pre Rosat SSJ Gotenks can even defeat Fat Buu. Heck, I even doubt that he can even defeat Good Buu. Even while having a weakling (in relation to him) like SSJ2 Majin Vegeta absorbed would get him the win. This is without counting Gotenks' poor...
  11. Natasha Romanoff

    Do you think Future Trunks vs Dabura (in both medias) just goes on to show that Dabura was really intended to be on Cell's level?

    Dabura was confident on fighting Gohan again and thinks it wouldn't be difficult to dispatch him. Okay, but we're talking about the manga since the anime is very vague and you yourself are using a feat from the manga.
  12. Natasha Romanoff

    Do you think Future Trunks vs Dabura (in both medias) just goes on to show that Dabura was really intended to be on Cell's level?

    How about we never got to see Dabura using full effort against Gohan and he is doing it with Trunks?
  13. Natasha Romanoff

    Do you think Future Trunks vs Dabura (in both medias) just goes on to show that Dabura was really intended to be on Cell's level?

    But, have you think about that Dabura could maybe never have need to effort in his battles, and as well, that Freeza, Piccolo and Buu despite of exerting effort in many situations on a battle couldn't get stronger? What assures us that something similar happened with Dabura? Do we even know if...
  14. Natasha Romanoff

    Do you think Future Trunks vs Dabura (in both medias) just goes on to show that Dabura was really intended to be on Cell's level?

    @Dagon Keyword: training Piccolo after being healed by Dende states that he is enough to defeat Vegeta (something which he already was), but not enough for Freeza. Where is the big improvement/getting stronger after recovery?
  15. Natasha Romanoff

    Do you think Future Trunks vs Dabura (in both medias) just goes on to show that Dabura was really intended to be on Cell's level?

    So, everyone must have the zenkai ability, I guess, it's no longer saiyan-exclusive as it said in the story, even though, after the Freeza saga, not even in saiyans that seems to be the case and/or doesn't increase that much. Buu didn't get stronger after recovering from Gotenks, Gohan or...
  16. Natasha Romanoff

    Do you think Future Trunks vs Dabura (in both medias) just goes on to show that Dabura was really intended to be on Cell's level?

    Aside from real life logic, which doesn't seem to operate with Dragon Ball. What thing other than adapting ability can make someone stronger? Did Freeza through fighting got stronger? Android 17 was getting stronger while fighting Piccolo or visceversa?
  17. Natasha Romanoff

    Do you think Future Trunks vs Dabura (in both medias) just goes on to show that Dabura was really intended to be on Cell's level?

    Gohan is a hybrid half saiyan, so? Krillin could pretty much have been increasing his power, so that's not an indication. Lol, Gohan or Krillin could've defeated him easily without his ability to manipulate time. Krillin wasn't fighting alone with him, so that's not an argument. Assuming my...
  18. Natasha Romanoff

    Do you think Future Trunks vs Dabura (in both medias) just goes on to show that Dabura was really intended to be on Cell's level?

    Yes, because, his full potential was unlocked, we can't tell for sure if he actually made himself stronger as the only useful thing he did was with the Kienzan and heavily damaging a suppressed Vegeta, while acknowledging that he can't damage him while not being suppressed. The same can be said...
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