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In the manga, SSJ2 Trunks was still dominating him before of that. Of course, SSJ2 Vegeta, Goku or Kid Gohan would defeat Present Dabura without effort, but if Gohan was a SSJ2 it goes on to show that they are on par or in a similar level while being a piece of cake for anyone of them. Also...

Goku Black & Android 18 stated that Vegeta pushed them too far, as well as use the term "human" (18 only uses it in the manga): When Goku Black defeats Vegeta, he claims that he's just a warm up, in a similar way, Android 18 doesn't consider Vegeta that great even after hearing that he is...

What's the proof of all of that? The anime it's pretty vague on that regard, as well as it were barely given any information and I can't find it in the manga. Just because time passes doesn't make someone stronger, not because times keeps passing it made Goku stronger in the Buu Saga while doing...

But, doesn't make sense for Future Dabura to be stronger than his main timeline self considering that the androids 17/18 were weaker in the future.. Also, that main timeline Dabura was never interested on getting stronger as he considered himself the strongest in the universe. I have two ways...

Don't you think this just goes on to tell us how much Trunks has progressed since the last time we saw him, putting him fighting against someone who is Cell tier in terms of power and showing us that Toriyama always intended Dabura to be on that level? Or why don't you think this is the case...

That it isn't actually reliable as the V-Jump as a whole, that also have power levels that doesn't make sense by the Freeza saga with Vegeta at 250.000, Gohan at 200.000 and Krillin with 75.000, even though, Vegeta, Gohan and Krillin thought they could defeat 1st form Freeza, Buu Saga SSJ Goku...

Even then, I don't know why a guide specifically made for the manga would count in the anime in which Gogeta pertains. Going by what the movie and anime suggests Base Gogeta could've pretty much been plenty for Janemba. Point is, that Gogeta or any metamoran Fusion wouldn't be affected by...

I don't comprehend why to use videogames on this.

Vegeta used Grade 2 against Semi Perfect Cell, which Trunks considered unnecesary right off the bat, also SSJ Trunks proved to be stronger than Semi Perfect Cell in the anime. Chapter: 377 (DBZ 183), P3.1-2 Context: as Vegeta is about to fight second form Cell Trunks: “Father intends to...

Hmmm, okay... he recognized him as Goku, did that also was refering to base Goku...? SSJ Goku...? SSJ2 Goku...? Because Gohan has just a black hair, so it can also be confusing him with any of this forms and not one specific. Piccolo also mistook him believing he was an strong enemy even before...

It's comprehensible for Piccolo to mistook him for Goku, someone appearing while using the same gi as Goku, and, as well has black hair is appearing. Also, at that point, he was too far and Goten recognized him due to being his older brother. I mean, Gohan even after reviving did stay on his...

Because Gohan has trained, gotten stronger and is now more prepared to fight compared to the rusty initial version of himself, as well as his insecure self of the Cell Games when he was a kid. After activating it, he was in his basic base form once again, as there was no need to stay on that...

No, he wasn't. Gohan while coming to Earth wasn't on his Ultimate form till he activated it Of course, that is an state he can use to his own will.

But, is still a possibility that Gogeta didn't need SSJ to defeat Janemba, his superiority was completely overwhelming over him. Base Gotenks felt more confident on defeating Fat Buu despite of knowing how outclassed SSJ Goten and Trunks were, I don't think Toei would change that to nerf Gogeta...

From what we are shown, Janemba isn't strong enough to tank SSJ3 Goku's attacks: However, since SSJ3 Goku is untested against any form of Super Buu, we can't tell for sure whether Super Buu would be able to tank SSJ3 Goku. His blasts are shown to be powerful enough to damage this Goku...

Chapter: 496 (DBZ 302), P4.1-2 Gohan: "Ho-how can I turn into this mightiest of warriors!?" Elder Kaioshin: "You transform into that Super whatever-it-is a lot, right? You'll be fine if you just get the gist of that, and throw in a kiai." Gohan: "The gist of a Super Saiyan...I-I got it...!"...

Gohan was in base inside of Buu, but he could make use of Ultimate Gohan's power. I don't think that's a limitant.

The idea that South Kaioshin powered up Buu is simply headcanon, as it isn't stated or implied anywhere. On the other hand, Buu stated that he is going to add Gotenks' power and Piccolo's brains: Chapter: 499 (DBZ 305), P6.1 Context: Boo thinking to himself, before he absorbs Gotenks and...

So this would minor the expected gap being between Vegetto and SSJ3 Goku in the same saga or that wasn't as big as it was believed to be? So, everything Goku says it remains on his own calculations as he doesn't know how exactly strong Vegeta is? That happened far after Goku's statement was...

Do you think Goku is talking about the suppressed Beerus that defeated him or speculating about an hypothetical full power Beerus? Is Goku expecting Vegeta to have grown stronger or he is counting Vegeta as is his Buu saga self? Do you think Goku is aware of Vegeta having gotten stronger?