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Vegeta was acting like a faithful dog to his owner, telling him the truth about everything and getting carried away by his nerves. He wouldn't lie to Beerus on anything. Don't know, how can Vegeta punish Buu otherwise and he would obbey? They are not near beings or anything, as well as doesn't...

Buu's word can't be taken of that much of an face value and it's pretty much contradictory from one point to other. IMO him believing that he can defeat Gohaku it also extends to him believing he can defeat Gogeta and him not being any impressed with SSJ Vegetto (Goku and Old Kaioshin believed...

Would Vegeta be thinking or considering all of those things? He would just fight Buu in order to Beerus not to do so and that he doesn't have to bother. It wasn't until Beerus actually makes it know how he would get had that happened that he is no longer planning on doing that. Vegeta was...

Vegeta didn't try physical conflict against anyone afterwards, not against Buu at that point in time. Considering that Buu would not chill himself, he is offering himself as to punish Buu so Beerus would not take cards in the subject anymore and trying to make him get relaxed, so Beerus doesn't...

Merged Zamasu alone is enough to give Vegetto a run for his money IMO, however Goku is too weak to help, he basically exerted himself to beyond ordinary levels and destroyed his arms to basically just make Zamasu get angry. I can see Vegetto overpowering both. Does the Holy Wrath has an stated...

Vegeta also didn't attempt to stop anyone of fighting Beerus nor was encouraged enough before of Bulma getting slapped, For me, the context speaks for itself as Buu is someone who was insolent with Beerus and he deserves to be punished. As opposed to Beerus doing it by himself, Vegeta offered...

As of know, I have 50% Goku a little bit behind. No character other than Super Vegeta is stated to be weaker than him and Krillin just acknowledges Goku being the strongest while going 100%. 50% Goku: 5 Grade 3 Trunks: 7.5 100% Goku: 10

Both appeared in the first panel I presented.

@Dagon How is Old Kaioshin supposed to be able to defend himself if he's trapped on a sword? Gohan can defend himself and can react while Old Kaioshin can't. The situations are not even comparable. Gohan could have been revived as it were Piccolo and Krillin had someone just killed Dabura. I...

Sorry, I don't got interested on those kind of things.

That's a very arbitrary rule. But bad for the guy if that was the case. I had read many threads using my name including the forum awards, but I've decided not to respond to most of them.

Base = 1 SSJ = 50x SSJ2 = 150x SSJ3= 600x SSJ2 (Vegeta) = 750x (only if he’s enraged) SSJG = 6,000x SSJB (Manga) = 18,000x (can only be used for a short period as the stamina began to fall) SSJB (Anime) = 18,000x PSSJB = 18,000x (can be used constantly as a multiplier) SSJBE = 360,000x

I hadn't even know of that Tosh or whatever until Hector mentioned him last year. I was entering these forums just in the final lap of 2020, when was that Tosh entering these forums or who was him for me to have a bit of a reference (assuming he was on any of these recent years)?

Wasn't BoG SSJ3 Goku stronger than Ultimate Gohan? I can accept that if it were the case, but SSJ2 Vegeta is an stretch and I can justify him being 2nd place due to the rivality itself. I would put more attention to his shock at how Beerus defeated him in two blows, the Goten comment or Beerus...

Well, I didn't expect this... People are at their weakest while ruled by their emotions, but also the fact that you beg for evidence is very telling... He still uses the spit on them while being trash doesn't seem as he only uses it when he is trying his best. No, I'm not a native English...

He still told him that he would take care of Buu, I don't think he has any reason to lie on this.

I think the narrative makes clear that Vegeta surpassed Good Buu as he was confident on beating him which is something he said to Beerus, he doesn't had any reason to talk out his ass on here, also Bulma told Vegeta to beat on Beerus even after watching Good Buu getting slapped. Who do you...

The fact that Babidi and Dabura accorded to get rid of the trash (Kibito, Krillin and Piccolo) and how he spitted Piccolo and Krillin, as well as they didn't got the energy from their stones that were there pretty much is an indicative. Dabura would have lost his self confidence had he been...

Not really, had he won due to the spit he could not have achieved any damage, therefore he wasn't trying that hard. At no point Dabura lost his self confidence neither we got to see him nervous, the opposite is what is shown to us. Dabura could've killed Krillin in one punch yet he decided to...

Okay, at a last thing, do you think that the fact that Dabura had more energies in reserve can mean something when it comes to effort? In the fight between Goku and Cell, Goku had less reserves of energies, while Cell had more. Also, in the fight, it was stated by Goku himself that he was giving...