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I wouldn’t call that “significant damage” since Piccolo isn’t weakened at all and Goku even saya it. A full power Kamehameha was almost always a special finisher so definitely a good amount above the user.

Freeza himself couldn’t control his power. He had stamina issuee at 100% and said he had transformations to control himself.

This is a bit of a tricky question. Can King Cold control his power level like Freeza?

He’d have access but he’d also struggle to control his power.

And how can King Cold help Freeza? I’m trying to visualize how the fight should go down. Cold to Freeza is a bigger gap than Jheese to Goku/Ginyu.

What kind of help did Vegeta expect? Don’t forget he was already slipping into his “I’m a Super Saiyan!” mentality as well.

Not sure. He was useful against Nappa and Vegeta, and only dismissed from the Raditz fight because Goku was afraid he’d die again. He and Gohan saved Vegeta’s life vs Recoome and never stopped helping against stronger forms of Freeza. He’s strong enough to “help”, but we don’t know what kind...

Really weird because Kami >>>>> Shenlong. Makes me wonder how powerful Neva is.

In terms of gaps, not very different from how strong he was compared to Nappa.

Buff Cell’s boost is tiny.

Gohan said they only might stand a chance vs 1st form. Vegeta definitely overplayed his hand here, or maybe he was hoping to become a SSJ in the fight. Kuririn and Gohan’s powers were growing too.

Goku was definitely worse than Vegeta after the beam struggle. He was in no condition to fight anymore. After the Ki ball, I like to think Vegeta put himself at a big disvantage. He’s not weaker tha Goku, but KKx2 Goku would’ve kicked his ass.

He said it on twitter because fans keep pestering him about power scaling questions back a couple years ago. Agreed with all your arguments, but I think the comparison makes sense (they have similar narrative purposes) and nothing contradicts it. Hatchy even got forms similar to Cell (Giant and...

Scouters weren’t common thing back then, so Cold’s power would be completely unknown to most. Long ago Cold was the central figure, but when Freeza got old enough (which is before Vegeta was even born) he took a step back. Did Vegeta know Cold when he and Freeza went to Earth?

The fusions only need SSJG to stomp.

Good catch, I forgot about that. RIP bozo then, Bulma will rebound back to Yamcha.

He’d be included in the wish to revivr everyone Cell killed. It’d be the same as his Boo Saga resurrection.

I think Gohan’s lead was sizeable enough for him to come out on top. Vegeta would probably get revived anyway.

Broly is weaker than Hatchiyack, who is equal to Perfect Cell according to the writer of the movies.

Majin Vegeta 100 Fat Boo 300 SSJ3 Goku (Holding back): 320 SSJ3 Goku (All out): 400 Majin Vegeta Final Atonement: 400 SSJ3 Goku FP KHH (Unseen): 900