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  1. Kyo

    Cell's speed increase

    Yes, that’s what I said.
  2. Kyo

    Cell's speed increase

    I’ll take a spin on Q’s take and say that the bear hug is a different level of power, and that’s probably when he goes “all-out” in strength. Goku - 80 Gohan - 110 Cell - 115 ~ vs Goku - 90 Cell is initially 90/90 (strength/speed) against Gohan, then 90/115, then 115/115.
  3. Kyo

    Cell's speed increase

    The Viz line leaves more room for interpretation, but the Strength Checker's wording of "how about I go all-out, in speed at least?" clearly indicates that he's singling out his speed from his power. If he's going all out "in speed, at least" then there's some aspect(s) in which he's not going...
  4. Kyo

    How many levels did Perfect Cell have?

    It’s something like, Cell’s a 100 to Goku’s 80 but he’s holding back and using 90. Against Gohan he keeps fighting at 90 until he’s forced to use 100 speed (going “all out” in speed “at least”).
  5. Kyo

    PLG Power Level List

    Also, I know you like to give Goku and Vegeta the same amp in the early arcs these days, but it makes complete sense to me that Goku would be better at it.
  6. Kyo

    PLG Power Level List

    1. In a ki beam struggle, the beams cancel each other out to an extent. Goku didn't just hit Piccolo with a KHH, he had to go through Piccolo's beam to do it. Another good example of this is Goku vs Vegeta. This has interesting implications on Gohan vs Cell if you accept it, but amps are so much...
  7. Kyo

    PLG Power Level List

    I don't think I can see eye to eye with anyone dismissing Goku's and Piccolo's stated BoZ levels. The other BoZ levels being bad isn't a good enough reason to me.
  8. Kyo

    Best battle powers ever

    I used to decrease it right there and only there. The idea of a changing boost is stupid and it's only Gero's statements that ever necessitate in the story.
  9. Kyo

    How about we treat Jeice's statement about Vegeta's power being 20,000 units as correct?

    It's a literal plot hole. EDIT: But, if we played with it, we'd pretty quickly get back to "normal" with Goku's stated 60k power. Goku's gap over the Ginyus would be much larger, which would give us a larger starting point for the standard speed blitz gap. Something like 60k/27k = 2.22x.
  10. Kyo

    Best battle powers ever

    There can certainly be cases in shounen manga in which a character really shouldn't have access to the information needed to make a power statement (hence bad writing), but there are others in which it's reasonable to surmise that they were just told something off-screen. For example, Trunks...
  11. Kyo

    Hollywood Movies that ripped-off Anime

    But did Yoshi? :sponge
  12. Kyo

    Hollywood Movies that ripped-off Anime

    It would be strange for someone to feel the need to prove that Kimba didn’t rip off The Lion King, considering that Kimba was made before The Lion King.
  13. Kyo

    Hollywood Movies that ripped-off Anime

    There’s a YouTube video claiming that Kimba didn’t rip off The Lion King?
  14. Kyo

    Hollywood Movies that ripped-off Anime

    No it didn’t.
  15. Kyo

    These posters don't make sense

    There are 4 One Piece movies in the top 50 grossing Japanese films worldwide, 2 DBS movies, and zero DBZ movies. One Piece Film: Red far outstrips anything Dragon Ball.
  16. Kyo

    Full Base Saiyan Chain

    It was just a kiai
  17. Kyo

    Yoshi Watches Inuyasha

    rude
  18. Kyo

    How should we treat the Super Saiyan boost, and why?

    I’m going to murder you
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