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Those Chinese names throwing me off lol.

This new lore wants to indicate good Saiyans existing in a series that had always portrayed them as deserving of their extinction. Adding more layers and nuance to an element is typically for the better, but this is not one of them. The character writing and narrative was actually better with...

So Gine deserved to die then?

This line just doesn't hit the same.

It’s not a story inconsistency but it still heavily undermines the themes of that arc and the personal growth of the protagonist.

I prefer these forms way better than SSJB, conceptually at least. It’s just that they were completely botched by crackhead writers.

Yeah even if you don't it shouldn't be a problem. There are plenty of characters to like in this series. Shin isn't even in my top 5.

Oh boy you are not gonna like the protagonist lmao.

A lot of people consider this the weakest arc so it’s nice to see people enjoy it.

Everybody reading this now huh

Pure dueling match Who wins? @ahill1 @SSJ2

I think it’s just Bonney and Sanji.

Also the most undeserving promotions in this series lmao

Hell no lol.

I'll laugh if they put Babidi in this, not that I would mind.

Lord Spopobitch and Yajirobi confirmed lets gooooooo

Transforming is not cheating.

I'd say it's a retcon of sorts. The funny thing that I think people don't talk about is that Toriyama has done this in less obvious ways even as far back as Part 1. Taopaipai was still talked about in a legendary status even in the 22nd Budokai, despite the fact that many would have assumed he...

I think you forgot Future Gohan.