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Maybe. Better than the other arguments. Although Ginyu couldn't even use Goku's full power at first. If Ginyu had access to 23,000 and that's still faster than full power Ginyu, it comes across as really odd. I think it's bad writing. Could reconcile it as Ginyu speaking about its proportional...

Ginyu is not using his full power there. When Jeice uses his scouter to detect Goku at 160k, he says Captain Ginyu "tops out at 120,000", which means Ginyu was not using his full power yet, or else he would already be "topped out." Ginyu starts at a lower level, enough that it would be able to...

We aren't given an exact level for initial Gingertown Cell, so he could possibly be weak enough that Piccolo is stronger than his Kamehameha. in my opinion Gingertown Cell is near Vegeta's level, which would make his Kamehameha stronger than Piccolo.

You can have a certain level of technology but people may not get inspired to combine technologies in a way to make a smartphone. Meso-Americans could build advanced pyramids but didn't even have the wheel. The real answer is the writers add technology that is present in the real world at the...

Trunks told Freeza to attack him at full force, and gave Freeza enough opportunity to try it. In the anime he gives even more chances for Freeza and halts the Supernova. In the anime it's clearly a several-fold difference. In the manga you can get away with less, but given Trunks' confidence...

If you read or super literally, it sounds like Cell's first Kamehameha was the same power level as the one from the Saiyan Saga. Fans rightfully think this is odd, so we interpret it differently to make more sense in the broader context. It does make some sense that relative multipliers can...

Old Kai said the ritual brings one far past their own limits. It goes beyond one's current potential. Imagine the most powerful Gohan could be with all the rage possible, and Ultimate is stronger than that.

The Japanese won the race war in AT's world, lol.

Yeah in the first Broly movie, Roshi cheered for Krillin's singing, saying "Best in all of Japan!" Also the English language exists, not just from English loan words, but from an episode of the Great Saiyaman Saga where Gohan is in English class learning the English language. This point is lost...

I think Goku not being in his prime is because he can't fight as well in a child body, but his power level or potential is the same.

Vegeta takes a nap in the manga nonetheless, and the anime makes a more dramatic point about Vegeta fighting off sleep deprivation. I think it's fine to have him not have his full power. He's healed but still has the sleeplessness which Senzu don't affect./

Neat theory.

I'm thinking base Goku may be 1/3 or at best half of full power Perfect Cell since there needs to be enough room for Glorio's magic to still be below Dabura's capabilities. We need to remember that a "mere" 400x this level is beyond all Buu saga powers besides Vegetto and maybe higher forms of...

The cool factor made it seem like 5x.

I floated a 2.5x boost for a while but I decided that 2x is good enough and doesn't contradict anything.

Could be a logarithmic growth, where the first many make for a sharp rise then it levels off.

DBS showed Grade 3 > SSJ2 with the Trunks vs Vegeta sparring. I just go with EML putting it at 10x, I say 10x SSJ.

At best the partial manifestation from DBS:B could happen but not when you don't see the aura.

It's a raw scan. The site hosts torrents of anime, I think hentai is on a different site. I can send it to you directly.

Saiyan Scholar would hate to hear this. He says Goku was a great father lol.