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What do you mean? It wasn't the longest power up sequence but it was still a very long one compared to the standard one. I know, but I was answering the title's question as to why SSJ2 couldn't be x2 for Gohan. Also, you have a tremendously small rage boost for Gohan that doesn't work.

Doesn't work because there far too many massive gaps in-between SSJ2 Gohan and SSJ Gohan. First SSJ Gohan is shown to be slightly inferior to a suppressed Perfect Cell. So Suppressed Perfect Cell > = SSJ Gohan Then after Gohan goes SSJ2 and one shots the Cell Juniors, not only does Cell...

Thank you man!

The anime and the manga scale different, I believe Goku in the manga isn't implied in any moment to be stronger than Gohan. Are we sure Goku was about to get serious against Kid Buu? I don't remember how it went, could you show a scan or something?

Goku ( BOG Saga) > Goku (Buu Saga). Goku and Vegeta are confirmed to be the strongest warriors in the Universe by Vegeta meaning that they surpassed Ultimate Gohan in just their SSJ2 states, therefore Earth is doomed if Goku loses.

No, you didn't, all you did was claim Frieza didn't raise his power level without giving any argument that proves it.

I just gave you my arguments to support my stance, what are your arguments to support yours?

I'm curious to know why you disagree. Goku and Frieza fight for a while with Frieza having a bit of superiority but Goku is still able to perform much better than Vegeta (30,000) did against Recoome (40,000), then when Frieza decides to not use his hands, he completely dominates Goku in a way he...

Ah! I see, it's because they're not the same, like, the level Frieza used intially against Goku is not the same he used when he didn't use his hands.

What do you mean why I have them on the list?

That Vegeta would transform into a SSJ3 xd.

My numbers would go like this if we ignore the official number of Goku at 3,000,000: Second Form Frieza: 1,422,000 Piccolo: 1,600,000 Third Form Frieza: 2,400,000 Vegeta: 3,840,000 Vegeta Final Burst Cannon: 5,760,000 Suppressed Initial Goku: 6,171,000 Initial Final Form Frieza...

You called it bro lol.

It's not possible because Gotenks was confident in performing much better than Vegeta against Buu without even turning into a SSJ, meaning that Base Gotenks scaled between SSJ2 Majin Vegeta and SSJ3 Goku, turning into a SSJ would make him x50 stronger and therefore far surpassing SSJ3 Goku...