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Goku and Dende consider 17 to be in the former’s level, but they can’t sense his Ki. His feats don’t help either: All 17 does is not one shot Dyspo in their fight (in comparison PSSJB Goku and Vegeta basically ran over him) and take a punch from Jiren, but even base Goku did that.