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Reasons unknown.Why wouldn't Kaioshin sense Gohan accurately? Where's it said his chi sensing is shitty?
Reasons unknown.Why wouldn't Kaioshin sense Gohan accurately? Where's it said his chi sensing is shitty?
No, and it's even backed up by Super anime.
@GreatSaiyaman123
Fair enough, you aren't suggesting the boys are superior to the Cell Jrs though, right?
No, it's not a rare ability. Fighters have always been able to know how strong other opponents are just by watching them. We've had countless reactions of things like, "What speed!" Fighters can tell how fast someone is in relation to themselves and make judgments on their power based on that. You and I can do that right now. You can instantly tell if someone is dramatically faster than you just by watching their movements. There's no reason for Dragonball to work any differently.
Pui Pui can't be fodder. Someone who is capable of easily handling Pui Pui requires Yakon to deal with. Badibi doesn't have anyone on the ship that can easily smoke Pui Pui, which should be telling. Badidi collects only the strongest warriors in the universe, so the idea that all of these warriors are piss weak seems silly. Remember, Pui Pui represents the entirety of Badibi's forces.
@ahill1
Even more reason to suggest Shin didn't accurately sense Gohan from the getgo, which has evidence considering he brings up how hard it was to contain Gohan and not his ki power. He never saw how fast Gohan moved. If he knew how strong Ssj2 Gohan really was, Dabura wouldn't be a threat. It's sloppy writing, but don't let the sloppy writing deter you from the overall message here. Base Saiyans > Kaioshin is grounded in tons of evidence.
Kaioshin is nowhere near as fast as Yakon. There's no way he can be.
He sensed SSJ2 Goku's burst just fine.Reasons unknown.
Indeed, the burst seems to have allowed him to remember Gohan's similar burst of power.He sensed SSJ2 Goku's burst just fine.
The suit hinders their ability to fight to full effectiveness, so even with their power being equal to 18, she'd hold an advantage anyway. The anime had more dialogue to flesh it out, like Trunks saying he can't put his back into his punches.Last I checked, I had the base kids ~ SSJ Vegeta from the androids arc. I kinda looked into the fight closely and I think it's likely 18 was initially using a similar level of effort Vs Mighty Mask, which I call her resting base, as she was Vs Vegeta in their first switching of hands. Kid Trunks seems to have similar problems as Vegeta in fending her, so that's where I drew the conclusion more or less that base kid Trunks ~ SSJ Vegeta [androids arc]... When 18 said she'd go all out Vs Vegeta, she smiles before charging at him. When 18 sees the boys went SSJ, she smiles too, likewise, so I think she was about to go FP there much like she did Vs Vegeta, but once she realized their SSJs are that strong she just realized she couldn't do anything in a h2h battle.
Yeah, but look at his reaction to Goku's burst in comparison to Gohan. If you'd say his chi sensing is shitty so that actually watching their bases fight impresses him more, then he should be more impressed by base Goku's fighting abilities than merely sensing his SSJ2 burst, no?Indeed, the burst seems to have allowed him to remember Gohan's similar burst of power.
It doesn't seem likely. If Shin's psychic abilities were all that great, he wouldn't be so nervous against Pui Pui and Yakon. I think both fighters can individually take out Kaioshin by themselves.I think the psychic abilities is kinda lopsided. Doesn't that just mean Shin can just paralyze or blow up Pocus and Yakon despite being weaker?
Tbf, Beerus throwing Buu to Gohan at one side is the same as 18 doing it to Vegeta and Trunks back then, which is the equivalent of him taking down both of the strongest fighters (aside from Vegeta in Super).No, and it's even backed up by Super anime.
Beerus wrecks Majin Buu and then fights Base Gotenks, yet Piccolo is shocked that even Gotenks can be made such a fool of.
Base Gotenks > Majin Buu proves Base Gotenks power is more than just hype.
I don’t see your point? Are you talking the anime?Tbf, Beerus throwing Buu to Gohan at one side is the same as 18 doing it to Vegeta and Trunks back then, which is the equivalent of him taking down both of the strongest fighters (aside from Vegeta in Super).
He's saying that much like how Trunks and Vegeta were the strongest against 18, Buu and Gohan were the strongest against Buu because the scenes are similar. I don't really see that being the case. It's just coincidental.I don’t see your point? Are you talking the anime?
Oh, but that wouldn't outweigh my point? Majin Buu gets defeated and then Piccolo is surprised that Base Gotenks gets wrecked so easily. We have somewhat of an inconsistency when Videl is surprised that Piccolo gets defeated so easily after this point, but it's Videl.He's saying that much like how Trunks and Vegeta were the strongest against 18, Buu and Gohan were the strongest against Buu because the scenes are similar. I don't really see that being the case. It's just coincidental.
but it's Videl.