Future Warrior said:
I don't know man, he laughed it off without even a scratch. He seems to be leagues above Kuririn imo.
It was still a pretty standard Ki blast volley which didn't seem to be anywhere near as expressive as some of the previous Ki blast tanking in the series, such as the blast Piccolo used on Raditz or the one Vegeta used on Reacoom. Kuririn's reaction did seem to warrant a fair gap between them, though the fight beforehand showed it was still one in which Kuririn could hold out for a fair amount of time.
Fair enough, I don't have a counter to this one. But what I do want to say is that it isn't necessary to make Kuririn that strong considered it's definitely established that's he's weaker than his wife. It's not completely out of the question for her to be much stronger, but we don't have a statement or an implication of her doing any sort of training therefore it's best to assume she's at the same level. You could say her sparring matches with Kuririn somehow made her boo saga top tiers, but we have no idea if the scene where she spars with Kuririn was the first time or not so we don't know. Heck, they could have just sparred once and that was it. Although if you feel she is SS2 tier now and Kuririn isn't leagues behind her than It can't be contradicted I guess.
The thing is, if we go back to the main basis of the thread, Roshi, it almost requires Kuririn and #18 to have improved quite a bit. As we know, Kuririn should still be above Roshi, who's training gains were something that caused excitement in Goku. Even considering Goku's personality, do you really think he'd be impressed when facing someone who was DBZ #18 tier at this point, regardless of the situation?
Kuririn can't be weaker than Roshi, yet at the same time, Roshi likely can't be as far below Goku as the same Kuririn who Goku oneshotted and founded little fun in sparring against. Because of this conundrum, I would say it'd work best to have Kuririn, #18 and Roshi as high as possible without it being contradictive. Whilst it isn't the best evidence, you could use #18 deflecting Goku's Kamehameha as evidence for some improvement, or assume based on her character that Kuririn regaining his fighting spirit motivated the pair of them.
xmysticgohanx said:
#18 >>> Kulilin > Roshi >>> base u6 arc Vegeta >>> Gotenks >>> Goten/Trunks
Whilst I agree that those three need to be as high as possible, Kuririn is still significantly weaker than Zen Exhibition Base Gohan, who's SS2 self is weaker than his Ultimate self and likely SS3 Gotenks too.
I wouldn't say the gap between #18 and Kuririn would be that great either, given their sparring seemed to present them as being in rivalling range of each other.
