Dabura vs Goten & Trunks

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I also don't see why Gohan was a FPMSSjin. When he transformed into one for Goten, his hands were shaking uncontrollably, implying that he had difficulty handling the transformation
 

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Then why didn't he have electricity, like he did against Kibito?
Again, because he probably wasn't fully transformed or something.It's not like it's consistent, seeing how Vegetto as a SSJ has it and Majin Vegeta as a SSJ2 doesn't in some scenes.

Gohans hair was changed since the budokai onward tk have one bang regardless of the form... Gohan hair as SSjin 2 is one bang but spikier... Not to mention the SSjin 2 aura an the lightening and the sharp eyes

Saying he was SSjin 2 when he saw Videl being beaten is blatantly trolling.... He was SSjin... I am also sure GokuhanDBZfan know about the hair because it was explained and debunked since 2011 but keeps spouting this
It wasn't.The front of his hair is the same.
His eyes look identical to me against Kibito and when he fights Dabra.

You argue, that Goku told Gohan to go SSJ2, when he told him to get angry against Dabra.
Yet, in the scene, where Gohan clearly transforms out of anger, you say he was a FPSSJ.
You are contradicting yourself.

By him not having electricity, while a few pages later, when he really goes SSJ2, he had?
Lightning is inconsistent.

Actually, he was pretty consistent with it. All of the confirmed SSJ2 characters had lightning sparks and a sharper aura, though I'm not so sure about the latter. Later, AT even goes to explain the difference between SSJ and SSJ2
Vegetto had lightning, yet he was a mere SSJ.Majin Vegeta had no lightning, yet he was a SSJ2.

Toriyama shows the difference, yet immediately has Babidi shoot that down.

The front of his hair didn't change.He only had one bang, because he was a SSJ2 at all times in the Budokai.
 

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Lightning is inconsistent.
Not at showing the difference between SSJ and SSJ2, even more when Toriyama explicitly showed (through Goku) the basics differences between the two forms.

Vegetto had lightning
And we all know he was only a Super Saiyan. Why?

yet immediately has Babidi shoot that down.
No, he hasn't. The original line in the Japanese manga was: "ridiculous transformation...there's no great change, is there?", only showing that SuperSaiyajin2 does not look too different from SuperSaiyajin1, not that there was no change. But the difference is clearly visible to the eyes of the viewer, where SSJ2 has lightning sparks.

Vegeta had no lightning, yet he was a SSJ2.
Main Vegeta HAD lightning. At least for most of the time, while Gohan hadn't at ANY time. See the difference?

The front of his hair didn't change.He only had one bang, because he was a SSJ2 at all times in the Budokai.
No, not really. He was a SSJ2 only when Kibito asked him.
 

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