Dragon Ball Daima

[最強のフュージョン]

Babidi said he increases a person's power to above their limit, so even if Dabura had trained to his current peak at the time he'd still have gotten stronger. Goku being strong enough to fight Dabura tier+ opponents as a kid just means he got that much stronger after the Boo arc that turning to a kid and losing some of his power still didn't leave him as weak as he was when he fought Boo.

Or they just aren't weaker. I'm still waiting on the specific quote and even if Kaioshin says what's suggested verbatim, that doesn't necessarily indicate a drop in power. Everyone is clearly having trouble flying, so it's more a control issue than being outright weaker.

 

[Papasmurf]

It was outright stated, and quite after Goku already accustomed himself to his new body and flew properly.

Also, in the episode following thus he says he wasn't sure if he could turn SSJ still - which is likely due to having weakened in a child's body considering the only other character to doubt he can still transform was RoF Gohan.

 

[Southern Gothic]

Series has been great all throughout!

Comments from multiple places really shows who started with Z or Super/skipped OG DB/don't like OG DB.

You promised me SSJ3 Vegeta!

 

[Son Gokū]

You promised me SSJ3 Vegeta!

I remember, hehe.
We're not even halfway done yet.

 

[Dagon]

I think Goku not being in his prime is because he can't fight as well in a child body, but his power level or potential is the same.

 

[最強のフュージョン]

It was outright stated, and quite after Goku already accustomed himself to his new body and flew properly.

Also, in the episode following thus he says he wasn't sure if he could turn SSJ still - which is likely due to having weakened in a child's body considering the only other character to doubt he can still transform was RoF Gohan.

No? Goku has not shown being accustomed to flying by that point.

 

[Papasmurf]

No? Goku has not shown being accustomed to flying by that point.

On Earth he was. Makai's air pressure is what prevented him from flying properly.

 

[最強のフュージョン]

On Earth he was. Makai's air pressure is what prevented him from flying properly.

Not true either. Goku is never seen getting fully acclimated to flying before leaving for the Demon Realm.

Goku is only noted to have acclimated to both the pressure of the Demon realm and flying in the most recent episode. And if we're acknowledging that Goku's flight is being nerfed by the pressure of the Demon realm, it would be fair for Kaioshin to say he isn't in his prime even if Goku isn't explicitly weaker.

 

[Papasmurf]

Arinsu states in the most recent episode that she's surprised he is still that strong even as a brat, so the narrative of the series is that he's weaker as a kid. It's been states twice at this point.

 

[最強のフュージョン]

Arinsu states in the most recent episode that she's surprised he is still that strong even as a brat, so the narrative of the series is that he's weaker as a kid. It's been states twice at this point.

Arinsu's statement doesn't indicate he's weaker, it indicates the opposite in fact. You'll notice not once in the series has Goku made a remark about his power decreasing. If it had, he'd have said something, but he hasn't.

 

[SIAD]

So Goku adapted to the air of the 3rd Demon World when fighting Tamagami Number 3?

So Goku Base (vs Tamagami Number 3) >>>>>> Goku Base (vs Glorio) > Glorio >> Shin?

 

[Papasmurf]

Arinsu's statement doesn't indicate he's weaker, it indicates the opposite in fact. You'll notice not once in the series has Goku made a remark about his power decreasing. If it had, he'd have said something, but he hasn't.

No, Arinsu's statement was "He's still this strong even though he's become a child," (gaki ni nattemo soko made tsuyoi to wa ne) not that "he hasn't lost power as a child." You're twisting words at this point. Not to mention Goku didn't digress when Shin said he wasn't at his prime. Both statements are a far cry from, say, the Perfect File statement that Goku hasn't lost power when he became a child in GT. You'll notice even while Shin states that Goku acclimated to the heavier air in the Makai already, he never states he's just as strong as he was before being downsized.

 

[最強のフュージョン]

No, Arinsu's statement was "He's still this strong even though he's become a child," (gaki ni nattemo soko made tsuyoi to wa ne) not that "he hasn't lost power as a child." You're twisting words at this point. Not to mention Goku didn't digress when Shin said he wasn't at his prime. Both statements are a far cry from, say, the Perfect File statement that Goku hasn't lost power when he became a child in GT. You'll notice even while Shin states that Goku acclimated to the heavier air in the Makai already, he never states he's just as strong as he was before being downsized.

I ain't twistin' shit. Her statement doesn't suggest he's weaker. Again, Goku being affected by the atmosphere of the Demon Realm makes Kaioshin's statement a fair one. Notice not one character has remarked about being weaker. Why is that? Almost like they aren't weaker or something.

 

[ScottyFamalam]

The new "Majin":

Well, I'll be dropping this show now.

 

[Papasmurf]

I ain't twistin' shit. Her statement doesn't suggest he's weaker. Again, Goku being affected by the atmosphere of the Demon Realm makes Kaioshin's statement a fair one. Notice not one character has remarked about being weaker. Why is that? Almost like they aren't weaker or something.

It's already been stated by Shin that Goku has already gotten used to the air of the Makai, and Arinsu herself spoke of his child body being the reason she's so surprised he's still so strong, not the air of the Makai itself. Try again.

The new "Majin":

Well, I'll be dropping this show now.

Looks like a three-way fusion between Monaka, a Saibaman and Boo. Looks even worse than Semi Cell's design lol.

 

[ScottyFamalam]

It doesn't look anything like Boo. It just looks like a Saibaiman got Botox and put on Boo's pants.

 

[最強のフュージョン]

It's already been stated by Shin that Goku has already gotten used to the air of the Makai, and Arinsu herself spoke of his child body being the reason she's so surprised he's still so strong, not the air of the Makai itself. Try again.

Looks like a three-way fusion between Monaka, a Saibaman and Boo. Looks even worse than Semi Cell's design lol.

Nothing in Arinsu's statement indicates Goku is weaker. The opposite is implied through the statement. Try again.

 

[Son Gokū]

It's really weird to see such a near perfect design get hated on...
I love Kuu's look. Makes sense lore wise. It's even explained right before he's born, hehe. He doesn't just look it, but actually IS the fusion of Kid Buu and a Saibaman. He must of got his plump lips of Supreme Kai's sister's spit, hehehe!
I thought Fat Buu looked really stupid when I first seen him, but he quickly got love. I toned down and accepted it when we got into on how his look changed from absorbing the fat Supreme Kai. Lore is a pretty big factor for me on accepting "bad" designs. Otherwise, I wouldn't like One Piece at all, hehe. We're also buddies now, so I'd rather not hurt his feelings. If any of y'all ever figure out how to handle your multiverse stuff, just don't let him know I was disappointed in him for gaining back all that weight he lost training for the 1st Tournament of Power...
Anyway, I guarantee about 5 to 10 years from now, Kuu's design will be loved too.

 

[ScottyFamalam]

The design is dog shit.

 

[最強のフュージョン]

Man, if you think Kuu is bad, just wait til

Spoiler: Daima Spoilers

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