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In fairness, those ships were built before the cataclysm, which may have destroyed the necessary resources. Even assuming this wasn't the case, technological advancements not scaling linearly with civilisations is a pretty consistent aspect of DB. For example, Earthlings are nowhere near as advanced in space travel as most other civilisations, yet their robotics clearly outshine the likes of the Freeza Force as seen with Bulma's inventions and Gero's creations.
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Kai just keeps getting worse and worse. The amount of filler during SSJ Galu vs 50% Freeza has been incredibly unnecessary. They were spot on with the pacing until the battle with Freeza, it's a shame they've lost it.
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It's said that the Saiyans and the Freeza empire kill off the habitants of the planets and sell them to the "aliens"... who are these aliens? Are they the type that received Vegeta when he got to one of their planets all injured? If so, they are weaklings, so how can any possible trade off occur between them and Freeza? Just some thoughts that arouse as I was reading the Freeza's arc.
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Most likely, they hold resources or supplies that the Cold family values or simply refer to any rich alien interested in buying a planet. Their significance certainly isn't to do with power, considering it's established very well that the Freeza Force didn't believe anyone other than Freeza and Cold existed who could overpower the Ginyu Tokusentai.
Anime-wise, the closest thing we have to knowing about Freeza's clients is a few of one race appearing in Kaio's flashback about the Saiyans' origins:
Anime-wise, the closest thing we have to knowing about Freeza's clients is a few of one race appearing in Kaio's flashback about the Saiyans' origins:
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Captain Cadaver said:Most likely, they hold resources or supplies that the Cold family values or simply refer to any rich alien interested in buying a planet. Their significance certainly isn't to do with power, considering it's established very well that the Freeza Force didn't believe anyone other than Freeza and Cold existed who could overpower the Ginyu Tokusentai.
Anime-wise, the closest thing we have to knowing about Freeza's clients is a few of one race appearing in Kaio's flashback about the Saiyans' origins:
Do you think the ones who received Vegeta and got jim to the machine healing aren't the aliens that made the trade off?
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It's unlikely when these were people directly under Freeza's rule rather than in some kind of even slightly equal-partnership of business. It is worth noting that the reptilian, somewhat Skeksis-inspired, alien on Planet Freeza #79 operating the healing chamber also do the same on Planet Vegeta during the Bardock Special. Perhaps that species is the one who created the healing chambers 
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Episode 51 of Kai brought it to a new low. Gohan returning to fight Freeza and actually overpowering him at one point. Vegets being revived and speaking with SSJ Goku/blasting Freeza.. How the hell did these make it into Kai? 
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Probably, though I wouldn't put it past Super era Galu forgetting about what he can and cannot do 
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One interesting thing I just noticed about the Cell Arc is that Gohan first achieves SSJ (albeit, briefly) at the same time Cell attains his perfect form, perhaps suggesting Toriyama already had Gohan being the one to fight Cell in mind at that point and wanted to present them as being on parallel journeys somewhat.
It's also pretty neat that, when considering Gero being his creator and thereby a "father" of sorts, the climax of the Cell Games consists of the protagonist and the instigating villain of the arc essentially gambling upon their children to decide the fate of everything (though Gero doing so far less personally, obviously).
It's also pretty neat that, when considering Gero being his creator and thereby a "father" of sorts, the climax of the Cell Games consists of the protagonist and the instigating villain of the arc essentially gambling upon their children to decide the fate of everything (though Gero doing so far less personally, obviously).
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Kuririn VS Cell wasn't bad, considering Kuririn hit Cell with an off-guard attack and Cell was purposely not oneshotting Kuririn so he didn't waste a valuable energy resource. Beyond giving Kuririn a nice character moment in showcasing his courage against a greater threat (which was nothing new at that point), however, it was an ultimately pointless filler that just serves to waste time.
Kai's take on filler removal is absolutely absurd. It removes filler that enhances the story such as the filler that improved Gohan's character development in the Saiyan Arc, ones with good character moments such as Bulma's adventures on Namek that gave her something to do, the peaceful wait for the Cell Games that added extra impact to Goku's death or Gohan's Great Saiyaman adventures, yet retains filler that actively damages the plot such as Ginyu-Bulma or the statements of Pure Boo > All other Boos.
Kai's take on filler removal is absolutely absurd. It removes filler that enhances the story such as the filler that improved Gohan's character development in the Saiyan Arc, ones with good character moments such as Bulma's adventures on Namek that gave her something to do, the peaceful wait for the Cell Games that added extra impact to Goku's death or Gohan's Great Saiyaman adventures, yet retains filler that actively damages the plot such as Ginyu-Bulma or the statements of Pure Boo > All other Boos
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One of my first neoseeker threads: https://www.neoseeker.com/forums/88/t2069330-people-think-buu-saga-goku-so-weak/
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https://www.neoseeker.com/forums/88/t2069330-people-think-buu-saga-goku-so-weak/6.htm#m37530550Six Trails said:One of my first neoseeker threads: https://www.neoseeker.com/forums/88/t2069330-people-think-buu-saga-goku-so-weak/
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Was Goku’s strength nerfed after the series took a more martial arts oriented approach? In the Dragon Ball hunt he’s shown crushing boulders with his bare hands, but then when he’s training with Roshi he can barely move boulders.
His speed being only on peak human levels also seems disproportionate to his superhuman, wall level strength.
His speed being only on peak human levels also seems disproportionate to his superhuman, wall level strength.
