kriss- said:
Kaioshin referred to Yakon as a 'Magical being', so it infers latent abilities and the only ability that Yakon revealed to us that proved to be almost overpowering to a Super Saiyan was his ability to suck people into his mouth and eat them.
"Magical" is a Vizism. Yakon is referred to as a "Demon beast" in the original.
Kaioshin: “Th-that’s right! The demon beast Yakon eats light energy…! Goku’s energy after he becomes a Super Saiyan is probably the best food for him…!”
The Daizenshuu repeats this. Takes care of that. It also shows Kaioshin wasn't even thinking about his light energy ability going into the fight.
Heck it even says 'there's the suction', and Goku is shown to be getting pulled in. This is the reason that Yakon is so dangerous, not necessarily due to his battle power alone but due to is latent abilities.
You can keep repeating this, but it doesn't change anything. Yakon is sucking the light energy out of him. He never used the ability until Goku showed his light energy. It requires no assumption.
We've been shown that they do here by powering up. So that argument is now complete dismiss-able and brings us back to my original analogy.
Lol, seriously. That's a flight aura. Kaioshin
never used an aura when fighting Boo, and we know he was fighting Boo with all of his power. Looks like you've dismissed notta.
We'll look at Kaioshins strength level:
You missed the part where Kaioshin said he'd lose to Goku in a fight at the tournament.
A demonic being, actually. Same as the other guy he fears.
He gave Goku Mssj a hard time, a version of which is stronger then Kid Gohan from the Cell Games.
Goku never tried to attack him once. We already know for a fact he stood there the entire time. His power was far higher than Yakon's, meaning he'd destroy him in an actual fight.
Yakon forced Goku to use SSj2 to overwhelm him.[/b]
He didn't force anything, though. Goku did it because he wanted to. That's why he told Gohan to stay back and let him do it. It was all for show. He never tried to engage Yakon once in Super Saiyan.
Akira Toriyama
Well, then, where did the concept of “Super Saiyan God” come from?
Whis says this too, but I thought, “‘Super Saiyan God’… if you ask me, that’s an exaggeration.” (laughs) Anyway, I re-read the work for the first time in ages,
That's nice. We also see #8 giving Genki/Chi to the Genki-Dama and AT later calls him a fully robotic Android despite him being revived with all of the other beings killed by Boo. That goes against the original portrayal of #8 entirely.
So Akira Toriyama has established that he re-read his own work before working on Battle of Gods, yet he conforms to the ideology that Goku's Base form is inferior to Organic Freeza in terms of battle power units.
His original work showed a revived #8 giving Genki/Chi to the Genki-Dama like #17 was doing. His later statement says #8 is fully robotic.
However, he was still strong enough to overwhelm Yakon in hand to hand combat.
He kicked him once in the dark. Not very overwhelming.
However, Yakon's latent ability of sucking in people and light sources were powerful enough to make Goku struggle
I don't know why you continue to say this. Yakon's ability is very specific in what it does. It sucks light energy. That's why you see the light energy removed from Goku. He wasn't trying to eat Goku and tells us he wanted to eat the light energy.
Goku was momentarily forced into Super Saiyan 2 in order to overwhelm Yakon's latent abilities, which would essentially place Yakon above Kaioshin due to his performance against Goku. Hence why Kaioshin told the Z-Warriors to all attack at once. Kaioshion didn't consider himself completely ineffective against Yakon, he simply didn't want to take any chances. Furthermore, Kaioshins appears to be stronger then Super Saiyan tier power with his own latent abilities, but he doesn't progress as far as Yakon did, whom forced Goku into Super Saiyan 2.
At what point did Goku try to attack Yakon in Super Saiyan? Never? Then he wasn't forced to do anything. He had the power capable of utterly pulverizing Yakon, but he took his time to blow him up and brag about it immediately afterwards.
So as we have established, latent abilities can change the outcome of a battle, even if the stronger fighter is considerably stronger.
And missed a very simple point:
Kaioshin can one-shot Freeza, so Kaioshin>Freeza
Kaioshin can't one-shot Yakon, believing a team attack is required. Therefore, Yakon>Freeza
Would Kaioshin suggest everyone attacking Freeza together? Nope. Guess Yakon is above Freeza, then. Simple.
