FnF Chain...

[kriss-]

Goku's Base form has been stated by Akira Toriyama to be inferior to Organic Freeza, after he re-read the original Japanese Manga and because he is a fluent speaker of Japanese, he would be aware of things that Herms wouldn't.. This remains factual and indirectly suggests that Yakon was weaker then Freeza as well and that Kaioshit isn't wholly reliable on his own.

You do not have more authority then Akira Toriyama. If he states something that doesn't contradict the Manga, you need to incorporate it into your logic and look for answers.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

If Yakon was weaker than Freeza, he'd have no reason to fear him. Why was Kaioshin scared of Dabra? Because he was the King of Demons and one of the most powerful in the universe. Why was he scared of Majin Boo? Because he was the most powerful being in the universe. Why was he scared of Yakon? Because he was a very powerful being from the Dark World. You're really going out of your way to make Yakon weak.

 

[kriss-]

Akira Toriyama's interpretation of his own Manga sides with me in addition to two other sources, the Manga adaption of Super in addition to Super itself. Meanwhile the only evidence that you can present is speculative conjecture that doesn't contradict our own analysis, which suggests that my argument is more supported then your own.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

Kaioshin being scared of Yakon is conjecture now?

Can Kaioshin one-shot Freeza? Is he scared of Freeza?

 

[kriss-]

Akira Toriyama has officially stated that Base Goku is weaker then Freeza and battle of gods a direct continuation of the Manga's serialization. This is all I need to debunk your misconceptions.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

That doesn't make the other parts of his story vanish.

AT said #8 was completely robotic even though we see him giving Genki to the Genki-Dama after being brought back (unlike #16) with the planet. This story is not infallible at all.

 

[kriss-]

Yakon never demonstrated anything to determine he's stronger then Kaioshin.

My evidence remains factual at your inability to debunk them.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

Except Kaioshin is scared of Yakon and thinks of Freeza as one-shot material.

Yakon>Freeza based on simple observation.

 

[kriss-]

Kaioshin being scared of Yakon doesn't mean he's weaker then him.

That is definitely a reach.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

Yet he's scared of Dabra because of his power.

Only your bias would attempt to separate the meaning. I guess he's scared of him because he didn't want to be swallowed by him.

And Freeza's still considered trash by the Kaioshin.

 

[kriss-]

Nothing suggests Yakon was stronger then Kaioshin.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

Everything suggests Yakon is above Freeza, though. The guy that could one-shot Freeza wasn't comfortable engaging him alone.

 

[kriss-]

Nothing suggests Yakon is above Freeza, only your speculation. Akira Toriyama contradicts this train of thought, falsifying it completely.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

The guy that can one-shot Freeza shat himself over the idea of fighting Yakon.

Is #8 fully robotic?

 

[kriss-]

Nothing showed that Yakon was stronger then Kaioshin.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

Kaioshin doesn't even want to consider fighting Yakon alone, according to himself. He can destroy Freeza in a single blast.

Yakon>Freeza

 

[kriss-]

Nothing in what you posted suggests that Yakon is stronger then Kaioshin. Kaioshins reference to Freeza was in regards to the Kaioshins from Pure Boo's time-line, not the present time-line.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

I have no idea what you're going on about. Kaioshin's says all of the Kaioshin's can defeat Freeza in a single attack. That means Kaioshin thinks Freeza is nothing to him. Kaioshin knew about Yakon before seeing him in Bobbidi's ship, so he was aware of his rep. Yakon is stronger than Freeza.

 

[kriss-]

Do you even check your sources?

Kaioshin: “No, Vegeta. At the time, there were 5 Kaioshins. Any one of them was good enough to defeat someone of Freeza’s level in a single blow…Out of those Kaioshins, 4 were killed by Majin Boo.”

And nothing directly states that Yakon is stronger then Kaioshin. Which leaves my analysis completely unaltered and factually true because it follows the original authors intention.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

Yeah. He says 5 Kaioshins would've been able to defeat Freeza in a single attack. What is your point for posting that again? We're talking about East Kaioshin. What does he say right as soon as he sees Yakon? "We must strike together!!"

Is #8 robotic? Just answer the question.