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[kriss-]

Yakon's energy eating ability was strong enough to force Goku to use Super Saiyan 2 to defeat. There's your answer right there. But that doesn't mean that Yakon on his own is stronger then Organic Freeza.

Akira Toriyama's statement contradicts nothing.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

Lol, stop. Super Saiyan Goku was far above Yakon and stood there the entire time. He never even tried to attack him once. He used Super Saiyan 2 to blow him apart, but we know for a fact 3000 kiri>800 kiri because it's stated.

Kaioshin only remembers that Yakon had an ability like this during the fight, anyway.

Kaioshin: "Of course!! Yakon consumes light energy!!"

So no, that isn't much of an answer. Is #8 robotic?

 

[kriss-]

Yakon was absorbing Goku as a Super Saiyan and returned him to his normal form, he required Super Saiyan 2 to blow him away. The Kiri meter capped out at 3,000, Goku could have been significantly higher.

This however is a reflection of Yakon's powers and not necessarily his strength, which was only on par with Goku in his base form.

This contradicts nothing.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

He didn't even try to attack him. He used Super Saiyan as a flashlight and stood there. He then transformed again and used that as an opportunity to blow Yakon to pieces. How in the world would this ability affect Kaioshin? He doesn't even transform, so it's irrelevant to him.

Again, how does light energy affect Kaioshin when he doesn't even transform?

It does. #8 is shown revived along with the Earth (#16 never was) and giving Genki/Chi to the Genki-Dama. Is he robotic or not?

 

[kriss-]

Yakon's ability was strong enough to pull Goku forward, imagine what it would do to Kaioshin. It doesn't mean that Yakon's strength alone is greater then Organic Freeza because Goku has already been established as being inferior to Freeza but strong enough to go toe to toe with Yakon in his Base form. Latent abilities can allow weaker fighters to defeat stronger ones, Zenos is an example of this. His strength alone isn't regarded as being huge but his ability to destroy the Universes was made out to be an ability that deviated from strength alone.

Same situation here.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

You're not making sense. Yakon's ability was to drain light energy. Why do you think Bobbidi was yelling at him to stop doing it? He was supposed to be doing damage, which this apparently doesn't do. Kaioshin has no light energy, so why is Yakon going to use something dedicated to sucking light energy on someone not emitting light energy?

 

[kriss-]

Yakon's ability was strong enough to pull Goku in, and strong enough to force him to use SSj2 to defeat him. Because Yakon eats people, he would be strong enough to eat Kaioshin. However this doesn't mean that he has to be strong enough to defeat Organic Freeza with his strength and speed alone. Nothing conforms to that idea.

 

[kriss-]

Oh and Yakon was sucking his energy away for himself:

 

[Evil Vegeta]

It doesn't pull you in. Goku was standing in the same exact spot since the beginning. What it does is suck the light energy away from Goku.

 

[kriss-]

Goku is drawn as being pulled in. Yakon walks in and asks who he's going to eat first. There's a good chance that he would eat Kaioshin, but that doesn't mean that he's stronger then him.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

He's in the same exact spot after having his light energy sucked. We're told his special ability is sucking light energy.

Why couldn't Kaioshin just one-shot Yakon before eating him? Because he can't.

 

[kriss-]

Yakon would pull him in and eat him.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

He's not pulling Goku in. He's literally sucking his light energy. That's exactly what we're told.

 

[kriss-]

Goku is shown being pulled in in the scan I provided, Lol.

He would eat Kaioshin.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

No. He's shown having his light energy sucked away from him. He didn't move one inch. Look over your scan again.

 

[kriss-]

The scan I posted shows that Goku had a difficult time standing in one place.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

He was sucking his light energy because that's what he was trying to eat. Yakon wasn't trying to eat Goku.

Why can't Kaioshin one-shot him right on the spot if he could?

 

[SSJ2]

Yakon was too sexually attractive to Kaioshin, so Kaio couldn't do the deed.

 

[kriss-]

It's stated that Yakon is eating all his energy (disregarding light) and that none of it is going to Majin Boo. There has always been a distinction between between Kaioshin and Majin Boo and the implications suggest that Kaioshins energy is incompatible with Boo, and usually has weird effects upon him. However it doesn't mean that Yakon couldn't eat him. Babadi had to ask Yakon not to kill Kaioshin. And Toriyama has stated that Base Goku is weaker then Organic Freeeza, the logical consensus here is that Yakon is around Goku's Base strength but a whole lot more powerful with his weird abilities. Albeit that's not the same as saying that he's as destructive as Goku is as a Super Saiyan.

None of this is contradictory to the statement in Battle of Gods and can reasonably be explained.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

The first Yakon does when debating on who to eat is attack Goku. In fact, the only thing Yakon did before Goku turned Super Saiyan was try and attack him. Yakon only pulled out his light sucking ability when there was light available for him eat. The most logical conclusion is that Yakon will attack his opponent and only do his sucking ability when there's light to eat.

Bobbidi asking Yakon to leave Kaioshin alive implies that Kaioshin is totally at Yakon's mercy no matter what. Now is #8 fully robotic? Why won't you answer this question?