How about we abondon...

[SSJ2]

What is CSSJB?

 

[Papasmurf]

That gayass GT-like Galu wank where he got equal to Merged Zamas by sucking all his aura inside his body or some stupid crap

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Tbf if Goku couldn't surpass his "limit" he'd never have gotten stronger than Piccolo Daimao since the power unlock water allegedly brought him to his limits. But what's fucking retarded is that Goku and Vegeta made no great gains after FnF even after training for 3 years in the RoSaT and their powers suddenly skyrocketed like crazy as soon as it became plot convenient to do so - Vegeta making good enough gains to keep up with SSJR Black's movements as a SSJG despite getting butt whooped by pre-Rose Black, and Goku magically doing better than Vegeta POST ROSAT against Zamasu even without his CSSJB, plus knowing how to master SSJB despite never attempting it when the Zamasu's were kicking his ass while unfused.

CSSJB was probably even less logical and out of left field than SSJB Kaioken (although still better than the 10x version). Even the anime had the decency to explain it had a 10% rate of success. What drawback does CSSJB have aside from straining the body? It was fucking ridiculous to hide it for that long.

Zamas was toying with them, wasn't he?

Also CSSj-Blue seemed to have incredible strain on it to the point it could kill them so it somewhat makes sense.

 

[Papasmurf]

Right, it is shown to be strenuous but surely not enough to kill u with a 90% probability based on Vegeta using it without issue on his first try against Beerus, plus Goku's always risked his life to put down a threat unless he had an ulterior motive (like wanting Gotenks to fight Boo).

It'd be a stretch to even equate it to Goku holding back his SSJ3 form against Vegeta since at the time he still had the excuse that his time was limited on Earth - this was just Goku wanting to be a dick so badly he made Trunks stall for them to escape when he could've mastered SSJB at any time if he were willing to risk injury.

Also, Zamasu was somewhat toying and taking Goku's attacks and shit but he instantly one-shotted Vegeta out of the SSJB form while Goku lasted for like 15 minutes while dropping in and out of his SSJ Blue form constantly (something he said would be too much for his body). It was just a mess, and even worse - they could've somewhat explained CSSJB if they said Goku managed to stabilize his SSJB form from overstressing his body against Zamasu or something.

 

[SSJ2]

Wtf lol, forgot all about that shet.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Right, it is shown to be strenuous but surely not enough to kill u with a 90% probability based on Vegeta using it without issue on his first try against Beerus, plus Goku's always risked his life to put down a threat unless he had an ulterior motive (like wanting Gotenks to fight Boo).

It'd be a stretch to even equate it to Goku holding back his SSJ3 form against Vegeta since at the time he still had the excuse that his time was limited on Earth - this was just Goku wanting to be a dick so badly he made Trunks stall for them to escape when he could've mastered SSJB at any time if he were willing to risk injury.

Also, Zamasu was somewhat toying and taking Goku's attacks and shit but he instantly one-shotted Vegeta out of the SSJB form while Goku lasted for like 15 minutes while dropping in and out of his SSJ Blue form constantly (something he said would be too much for his body). It was just a mess, and even worse - they could've somewhat explained CSSJB if they said Goku managed to stabilize his SSJB form from overstressing his body against Zamasu or something.

I don't think it was confirmed that that was the first time Vegeta used it. He might have done it before, I mean would it really be in Vegeta's character to let Goku do something and him not attaining the same thing? I think that's why he could probably use the transformation so well, because he had mastered it to an extent.

OK, I can't defend that. Yeah that was bad. He even risked Trunks possibly dying.

Zamas was probably angry that Goku said even Trunks could take him on his own. 2 2 2 He did remind Goku of that when he was beating him up. And maybe Vegeta just saw the situation as hopeless so he didn't even bother, where-as Goku always needs to keep fighting.

 

[Papasmurf]

Merged Zamasu's Black half was thoroughly humiliated by Vegeta too though 2

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Merged Zamasu's Black half was thoroughly humiliated by Vegeta too though 2

He was, but he didn't seem to take that as personal as Zamas. He never even mentioned that after. Goku's attitude seemed to have rubbed him the wrong way. 2 2 2

 

[Papasmurf]

I wonder if taking someone else's body somehow made him less gaynarcissistic :bitch

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Did Zamas jack-off as Goku-Black?

 

[ekrolo2]

I'd give the anime a big edge for how they handle Black, in the manga he's just another in a long line of arrogant pricks who throws a fit whenever something doesn't go his way. Hell, manga Black gets angry just because Vegeta SMIRKS at him!

The anime version? Never gets ticked off, even when he's losing he's always in control of himself and soon after the situation and nothing gets to him. It also helps he's one of the few DB characters who isn't retarded about the whole fighting for fun aspect, he likes a good battle but he'll still off someone when the opportunity presents itself.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

I thought it was interesting (in a confusing kind-of way) when Goku-Black and Zamas started arguing/fighting in the manga. I don't know it might have been stupid, but the fact that they are both essentially the same and still started fighting was interesting. Like I said though not sure how much sense it makes.

 

[GSM123]

I don't know what abondon is, though

 

[Fantastische Hure]

I don't know what abondon is, though

It's what you will do to your future children.

jk 2 2 2

sry rly 2 2 2

 

[GSM123]

It's what you will do to your future children.

jk 2 2 2

sry rly 2 2 2

:kden

 

[Fantastische Hure]

It's what you will do to your future children.

jk 2 2 2

sry rly 2 2 2

:kden

Good god. What do you want me to say? I already said I'm sorry. :'( :'( :'(

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

I already made up my mind on how the power scaling works in anime so it doesn't bother me. The manga on the other hand is still consistent but mystery at the same time in my mind.

 

[Animelover5487]

...power-scale for the humans in the anime, in-favour of just saying that they rely on techniques and stuff? None of it makes any sense for the humans especially.

As for the manga let's wait until then maybe. That'll be laid-out much more clearly probably.

It's not really that hard to scale the humans tbh. This episode didn't make it any harder for sure. Kuririn is the strongest Earthling and is relative to #18/Base Saiyans/Piccolo/Final Form Freeza, Roshi scales up to Kuririn and Tenshinhan is the weakest U7 fighter though not by a godly amount.

 

[ahill1]

Black in the manga is like Doflamingo in the anime, whining over being hit and stupid shit, whereas Black in the anime is like Doffy in the manga, calm and collected, not whinning after being hit, still smiling and keeping his cool.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Yeah, Black in the anime act like a true god since he is.