Zamas was toying with them, wasn't he?Atem King of Nigs said:Tbf if Goku couldn't surpass his "limit" he'd never have gotten stronger than Piccolo Daimao since the power unlock water allegedly brought him to his limits. But what's fucking retarded is that Goku and Vegeta made no great gains after FnF even after training for 3 years in the RoSaT and their powers suddenly skyrocketed like crazy as soon as it became plot convenient to do so - Vegeta making good enough gains to keep up with SSJR Black's movements as a SSJG despite getting butt whooped by pre-Rose Black, and Goku magically doing better than Vegeta POST ROSAT against Zamasu even without his CSSJB, plus knowing how to master SSJB despite never attempting it when the Zamasu's were kicking his ass while unfused.
CSSJB was probably even less logical and out of left field than SSJB Kaioken (although still better than the 10x version). Even the anime had the decency to explain it had a 10% rate of success. What drawback does CSSJB have aside from straining the body? It was fucking ridiculous to hide it for that long.
I don't think it was confirmed that that was the first time Vegeta used it. He might have done it before, I mean would it really be in Vegeta's character to let Goku do something and him not attaining the same thing? I think that's why he could probably use the transformation so well, because he had mastered it to an extent.Atem King of Nigs said:Right, it is shown to be strenuous but surely not enough to kill u with a 90% probability based on Vegeta using it without issue on his first try against Beerus, plus Goku's always risked his life to put down a threat unless he had an ulterior motive (like wanting Gotenks to fight Boo).
It'd be a stretch to even equate it to Goku holding back his SSJ3 form against Vegeta since at the time he still had the excuse that his time was limited on Earth - this was just Goku wanting to be a dick so badly he made Trunks stall for them to escape when he could've mastered SSJB at any time if he were willing to risk injury.
Also, Zamasu was somewhat toying and taking Goku's attacks and shit but he instantly one-shotted Vegeta out of the SSJB form while Goku lasted for like 15 minutes while dropping in and out of his SSJ Blue form constantly (something he said would be too much for his body). It was just a mess, and even worse - they could've somewhat explained CSSJB if they said Goku managed to stabilize his SSJB form from overstressing his body against Zamasu or something.
He was, but he didn't seem to take that as personal as Zamas. He never even mentioned that after. Goku's attitude seemed to have rubbed him the wrong way.Atem King of Nigs said:Merged Zamasu's Black half was thoroughly humiliated by Vegeta too though2
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It's what you will do to your future children.GreatSaiyaman123 said:I don't know what abondon is, though![]()
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Good god. What do you want me to say? I already said I'm sorry. :'( :'( :'(GreatSaiyaman123 said:Fantastische Hure said:It's what you will do to your future children.![]()
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Fantastische Hure said:...power-scale for the humans in the anime, in-favour of just saying that they rely on techniques and stuff? None of it makes any sense for the humans especially.
As for the manga let's wait until then maybe. That'll be laid-out much more clearly probably.