If Vegetto SSJB (Arc Zamasu / Anime) power is 100 What level do you give the following characters?

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If Vegetto SSJB (Arc Zamasu / Anime) power is 100

What level do you give the following characters?

Gigant Zamasu, Vegetto SSJB (Final Kamehameha) and Jedi Future Trunks SSJRage (Genkidama).
 

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Do you have Future Trunks SSJRage (Genkidama) more than 9x Gigant Zamasu?

Yes. It might not be Vegetto level, but I think it deserves some respect. That’s more or less the level I give Goku’s Arm Breaker Kamehameha vs Zamasu.
 

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SSJ Rage Trunks' Genkidama should be stronger than Vegetto Blue's Final KHH given that wasn't enough to overcome Merged Zamasu's invincibility. The Genkidama was likely at ~150. I don't believe in the "Merged Zamasu's power had fallen" nonsense.
 

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SSJ Rage Trunks' Genkidama should be stronger than Vegetto Blue's Final KHH given that wasn't enough to overcome Merged Zamasu's invincibility. The Genkidama was likely at ~150. I don't believe in the "Merged Zamasu's power had fallen" nonsense.
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And what level do you give Gigant Zamasu and Vegetto SSJB (Final Kamehameha) and Goku Base (Genkidama / ToP)?
 
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SSJ Rage Trunks' Genkidama should be stronger than Vegetto Blue's Final KHH given that wasn't enough to overcome Merged Zamasu's invincibility. The Genkidama was likely at ~150. I don't believe in the "Merged Zamasu's power had fallen" nonsense.

Trunks was fending off Zamasu even before he got everyone’s Ki though. Gowasu or Shin even says Zamasu was falling apart.
 

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Trunks was fending off Zamasu even before he got everyone’s Ki though. Gowasu or Shin even says Zamasu was falling apart.
So: Vegeta SSJB (Start of ToP) = Goku SSJB (Vs Jiren) > Kefla Base > Kale Berserker SSJ (Enraged) > Goku SSJB (Start of ToP) >>>>>>> Kale SSJ2 >>> Kale Berserker SSJ > >> Kale SSJ?

Future Trunks was fighting with the Golden Sword against Gigant Zamasu.
 

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If Genki Sword > Vegetto then how strong even is the U7 Genki-Dama? If Trunks can get that much energy from normal people and crippled Goku and Vegeta then the energy from the Androids + Gohan + Humans + Piccolo + Freeza is gonna be a 10,000 at the very least.

How does Goku (Start of ToP) compare to Vegetto and Zamasu? Is he about the same he was at the end of the FT Saga?
 

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What's the quote and falling apart in what sense?
That was when Zamasu was getting more and more agitated and enlarging himself and his face got freakier while clashing directly with Vegetto
 

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Ah okay so he was falling apart mentally.
Yeh he doesn't really show any external wounds from the beating he got from Vegetto after that scene, nor was he visibly badly damaged by the Final KHH. For some reason Vegetto seems able to clash with him in pure power judging by them clashing fists rather than Vegetto dodging him in a Perfect Cell vs. grade 3 Trunks fashion, but an amplified full power blast from Vegetto doesn't outright blow him to bits. Toei just nerfed Vegetto similar to SSJ4 Gogeta being unable to kill Omega Shitlord in GT with a full power blast so that Trunks could get the kill.

Gowasu said his body was reflecting the trainwreck his mind was becoming so he may have sustained damage, I think he was able to more or less repair himself physically though.
 
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Episode: 66
Time: 15:00-15:47
Context: Gowasu explains Zamasu's emotion
Supreme Kai: "Zamasu... He's not healing, but falling apart?!"
Gowasu: "That ugly form... This is Zamasu's complex emotions made real."
Supreme Kai: "His emotions?"
Gowasu: "Zamasu was too obsessed with the contradiction between gods and mortals. Why mortals make mistakes and fight each other. Why the gods forgives mortals. Why gods and mortals share similar forms. But, Zamasu. That form full of rage and hate... Was that the form you wished for? If mortals are wiped out, will that satisfy your emotions?"

Shin is clearly talking about Zamasu‘s body and then Gowasu compares it to his mind, not the other way around.
 

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Episode: 66
Time: 15:00-15:47
Context: Gowasu explains Zamasu's emotion
Supreme Kai: "Zamasu... He's not healing, but falling apart?!"
Gowasu: "That ugly form... This is Zamasu's complex emotions made real."
Supreme Kai: "His emotions?"
Gowasu: "Zamasu was too obsessed with the contradiction between gods and mortals. Why mortals make mistakes and fight each other. Why the gods forgives mortals. Why gods and mortals share similar forms. But, Zamasu. That form full of rage and hate... Was that the form you wished for? If mortals are wiped out, will that satisfy your emotions?"

Shin is clearly talking about Zamasu‘s body and then Gowasu compares it to his mind, not the other way around.
Yes, his body falling apart was a result of his mind becoming unstable and filled with rage which enabled him to power up and battle Vegetto Blue in the first place. That's not evidence of Zamasu's power having fallen.
 

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Yes, his body falling apart was a result of his mind becoming unstable and filled with rage which enabled him to power up and battle Vegetto Blue in the first place. That's not evidence of Zamasu's power having fallen.

He’s obviously not in peak condition if he can’t even pull himself together bruh. Trunks even fends him off before the Genki Sword power up.
 
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