Initial Fat Boo

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hapter: 461 (DBZ 267), P3.5-7
Context: after Kaioshin says they must run from Boo
Gohan: “…Is that so?...He really does have tremendous ki, but…It doesn’t seem like so much so that there’s nothing I can do…[ ] …If I can only put out all of my true power…”

Key work ''If only''. He's obviously implying he wouldn't be able to. What would even be the point of saying he wouldn't be totally hopeless using a power that he cant even tap into? He might as well have said we are all fucked...
 

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SSJ2 was retconned though, see Gohan vs Dabra. He can't use it at will post-Budokai.
 

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Reading comprehension is not your strong point. I could go in detail, but this is beneath me.
 

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Future Warrior said:
Super Saiyan Nazi said:
SSJ2 was retconned though, see Gohan vs Dabra. He can't use it at will post-Budokai.

Where did I state otherwise?

I don't know. I'm not arguing that you didn't. But if SSJ2 is retconned then it makes sense for him to be referring to SSJ2 in that statement, imo.
 

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Well below Kid Gohan, probably Buff Perfect Cell level. Vegeta laughs at Fat Boo's initial power. Goku and Vegeta aren't massive above Kid Gohan.
 

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SSJ2 Goku > Fatigued Goku ~ FP SSJ2 Gohan ~ 50% Buu Meter ~ Initial Buu

Suck it niggas
 

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I think what you're failing to realize p is that him being not hopeless and him wishing he can tap into his true power don't correlate with each other. Both of those statement are in completely different panels.

“…Is that so?...He really does have tremendous ki, but…It doesn’t seem like so much so that there’s nothing I can do''

Mentioning SSj1 here.

''…If I can only put out all of my true power…”

Talking about his true power, aka ssj2.

Not hard to understand.
 

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Fat Boo (First Powerup) > SS2 Goku = SS2 Majin Vegeta >> SS2 Gohan > Initial Fat Boo >= SS Gohan ~ Dabram

Fix't, thanks EV.
 

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Why are Majin Vegeta and Goku above Fat Boo's first power up? Goku implied they'd need to go at Boo together to defeat him.
 

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Diamond Ryan said:
Why are Majin Vegeta and Goku above Fat Boo's first power up? Goku implied they'd need to go at Boo together to defeat him.

True, but he ended up getting smacked around by Vegeta before his second power up. :idk
 

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Vegeta's attacks didn't do shit to him, and he wasn't even trying to hit back. He was just receiving it when barely defending himself then later 'regenerated' while smiling.
 

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Yeah, but why would Boo let Vegeta beat on him if he didn't let Gohan or Dabra do it? He does nothing to Vegeta before his second power up.
 

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Maybe because Dabra and Gohan aren't capable of knocking Boo around. I mean, they were quite pathetic.

Without knowing about Boo's regeneration, Vegeta already intended to die in the battle. That alone tells me Vegeta isn't above Boo.
 

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Paladin said:
Yeah, but why would Boo let Vegeta beat on him if he didn't let Gohan or Dabra do it? He does nothing to Vegeta before his second power up.

Boo loves to to toy around who can knocked him out like Basil did something that pussy Dabura and Gohan couldn't. That's the best explanation I can come up with. :troll
 

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Evil Vegeta said:
Maybe because Dabra and Gohan aren't capable of knocking Boo around. I mean, they were quite pathetic.

Without knowing about Boo's regeneration, Vegeta already intended to die in the battle. That alone tells me Vegeta isn't above Boo.

Fair enough, but I'd still say the advantage is very minor at best. I don't see why Boo would ramp up his power if he was already capable of tooling Veggie.
 

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No.

Majin Buu is sold as this invincible, GOD like being. For him to only be comparable to Gohan's already weakened max power, Gohan's perspective makes sense. Kaioshin has been selling Majin Buu to be a god, whereas, the Saiyans don't think so. The power statements show this about Majin Buu.

1) Vegeta absolutely shits on this supremely feared being. Goku notices he's weak, but he feels something is up.
2) Even weak ass Gohan is unimpressed based on how he was built up.

This is the set up. When Buu powers up and they all shit their pants, it comes full circle. The effect is more dramatic with that first interpretation.

Don't forget, the flow of the story. Back when you first remember the story, it was a hard sell for someone to be stronger than Cell. Everything is set up to be overexaggerated. It isn't until his first power up, does the case and the entire audience realize, holy shit, we have something here.
 

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Goku/ Majin Vegeta Combined > Fat Buu (1st Power Up) > Goku/Majin Vegeta individually > Vegeta > Gohan True Power ~ Initial Fat Buu

This is law.
 
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