Is AT jealous of Eiichiro Oda?

[Papasmurf]

And having Adult Goku way out of character cry for Master Roshi, especially in a world where death doesn't even mean anything.

Maybe he thought if you died in the world of void, Shenron can't bring you back.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Didn't he use the Mafuba against Piccolo Sr. and get brought back to life?

Can't argue with that.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Also character-designs. Just look at those designs and tell me they weren't inspired.

 

[Papasmurf]

I don't see any reason he'd be jealous tbh. OP was inspired by DB, Oda even admitted he is a huge fan of Toriyama. And Toriyama is wealthier than Oda (iirc) and despite him only having partial involvement, Super does just as well as OP in sales and DBS: Broly sold like wildfire. When DBZ was at its peak in the Freeza arc, it even racked up over 80-90% of Jump's popularity poll. AT as a manga artist is at least as successful as Oda.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

He's only richer because he evaded taxes.

AT feels jealous when he sees how One-Piece is better than DragonBall. I think that's why you see so many elements in DB Super.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

And never forget One-Piece was there for us when DragonBall left and abandoned us. Or should I say AT did.

 

[Papasmurf]

No, AT is just richer because he partially owns Dragon Quest and gets royalties from other games like Chrono Trigger and Blue Dragon, along with other shit he designs

I think AT did say his daughter loves OP much more than DB, and even read DB only because Gintama referenced it 2 2

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Did he? That's just even more proof. AT felt like he was king sheeeeeet when DragonBall was the highest-selling manga of all-time until that got surpassed and he felt like he had something to prove again. I think he just feels he can't measure upto One-Piece, can't blame him.

 

[Papasmurf]

OP Part 2 is crap though. Not that DB-Super isn't, but at least Toriyama has the excuse that Super is just a spin-off/sequel.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

DB-Super has derailed the original too though. Can't be as bad as that.

 

[Papasmurf]

I dropped OP during Dressroza but I hear it's gotten stupider since. I'll read it all someday, though.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

I heard got better since. Dressrosa from what I heard was a poor meng's Alabasta.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

DB-Super has derailed the original too though. Can't be as bad as that.

DB Super can at least be viewed on its own without directly damaging the quality of the original manga. Same can't be said of Part 2 OP in terms of how it's negatively effected the series overall, and very much so. I'd say even the Cell and Boo Arcs are better than most of what OP delivered after the timeskip.

I heard got better since. Dressrosa from what I heard was a poor meng's Alabasta.

Poor meng's Alabasta was still >>> Wholecake Island Arc with it removing the drawbacks of Luffy's power ups established in the previous arc, making his Haki so overpowered he can get stronger whilst fighting ala Super Galu and introducing the most inconsistent character in the series through Pudding. Not that Dressrosa isn't also terrible though.
Wano doesn't seem much better from what we've got thus far.

 

[Pocket-Gog~]

AT feels jealous when he sees how One-Piece is better than DragonBall. I think that's why you see so many elements in DB Super.

Elements like what.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Elements like what.

Super Galu being just as static a character as Luffy.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Please don't even compare DB Super Goku to Luffy. Modern Goku is a disgrace.

Pocket-Gog, not to be rude or anything but are you blind? It's just like I made a whole thread pointing-out some of the very obvious stuff.

Goku never grew post Freeza anyway as a character so that point is moot.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Please don't even compare DB Super Goku to Luffy. Modern Goku is a disgrace.

So's modern Luffy tho'.

 

[Pocket-Gog~]

Please don't even compare DB Super Goku to Luffy. Modern Goku is a disgrace.

Pocket-Gog, not to be rude or anything but are you blind? It's just like I made a whole thread pointing-out some of the very obvious stuff.

Which thread? I didn't pay attention.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Please don't even compare DB Super Goku to Luffy. Modern Goku is a disgrace.

So's modern Luffy tho'.

So you agree that Luffy has changed but then you said he's stagnant...hmmm...

Pocket-Cock you are officially ignored.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

So you agree that Luffy has changed but then you said he's stagnant...hmmm...

The fact he hasn't changed despite the life changing events that Sabaody and Marineford should've been is what made him a disgrace. That, and the only change being made to him being making his plot armour even thicker.