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[p123]

Discussion.

 

[Kyo]

trash

 

[Alex Boss]

Krillin

 

[p123]

Haha

 

[ahill1]

Good list...just a few points that I found relevant:

1-why Goku ( 21st Budokai ) is so much stronger that Krillin? Right, Goku is clearly stronger, but I think a 1.33x gap is enough.

2-I would put Roshi (21st Budokai) a little weaker than Goku (21st Budokai). Goku seemed always a step ahead of Jackie.

3-I would put Metallic stronger; Goku even asked why he did not participate in the tournament, and was forced to shot a kamehameha.

4- Goku ( Post Karin ) should be stronger than Tao Pai Pai's dodonpa, since Goku was able to stop it with his hands.

You're not going to go on your list? I really want to see the rest.

 

[p123]

1) Goku seems to be slightly ahead of Jackie Chun. When Jackie Chun gets serious, he can speed blitz one shot Krillen.

2) Jackie vs Goku seems to be more about the old master being frustrated with the young kid being able to match his every move. Goku seems to be tougher and more resilient and probably stronger, but ki wise, I don't think there needs to be an advantage. Goku is just the better fighter at equal levels against everyone.

3) Goku wasn't going all out against Metallic.

4) Honestly, there's no way to figure out how ki blasts work, I think I'm going to drop them altogether.

 

[Six Trails]

I think Drum could be a little lower, Tenshinhan was able to make him bleed, no? At least from what I recall, though I am admittedly rusty on most of DB.

Goku also appeared slightly stronger than Young PD. I think PD being 96% of Goku could work.

 

[ahill1]

I think 96% is quite a gap... 97% ~ 98% seems best.

 

[p123]

It's tough, when does an edge become apparent? 98%? 97%?

Mike take a look over Drum vs Tien once Drum gets serious. It's feat city.

 

[ahill1]

I think at 98%

98% - Goku Vs Piccolo Jr/Goku Vs Jackie/Goku Vs Tenshinhan
97% - Goku Vs Great Demon King Piccolo
96% - Goku Vs Grandpa Gohan/Goku Vs Namu
94% - Kuririn Vs Chaozu

Something like this imo.

So you have Piccolo at ~ 83% of Vegeta ( Cell Game ), huh? I thought you had Piccolo at 88% of Vegeta and Trunks.

I have Dabra = Cell (Vs Goku) as well.

Where do you have Goten and Trunks?

 

[withheldforprivacy]

1. Gohan post sword too strong.
2. Why not Base Gotenks post>SSJ pre, since you don't go with the ''Goku is maximum'' theory?

 

[p123]

Isn't it quite possible that Gohan is essentially a weaker fusion power at this point of the story? Gohan becoming a Super Saiyan 2 might be almost the same as Gotenks becoming a Ssj2.

 

[SSJ2]

I don't see it. Gohan's SSJ2 power is the power that is treated like the greatest potential out of anyone, dropping the form makes no sense.

 

[p123]

Gohan just failed in his ability to be able to bring out Ssj2 at will. Maybe they aren't going to bank on a maybe power?

 

[Six Trails]

I re-read Drum vs. Tenshinhan. I still think the gap doesn't need to be that big. I think it's smaller than Goku vs. Butta since Goku 1HKOd Butta while Tenshinhan wasn't 1HKOd from Drum.<div class='spoiler_toggle'>Spoiler: click to toggle</div><div class="spoiler" style="display:none;">

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1.44-1.5x could work, no?

 

[Animelover5487]

I personally have the gap at slightly over 1.35x. The only thing suggesting a huge gap is how he casually blitzed Tien but even then you don't need a 1.5x gap to do that.

 

[ahill1]

That's because p123 believes the distance between Old PD and Young PD should be the same as between Tambourine and Drum. So if Piccolo Daimao Young is 2x stronger than Piccolo Daimao Old, Drum must be 2x stronger than Tambourine as well.

 

[ahill1]

Where do you have a hypothetical enranged Gohan ( Boo saga ) ?

 

[p123]

Enraged Gohan in the Buu Saga? It's tough to tell, I'd say pretty close to Fat Buu.

Hidden Power Gohan = Post Zeta Gohan imo. It makes sense.

 

[Animelover5487]

Dabura = SSJ2 Gohan? Unless you are one of those guys who think Gohan was using SSJ2 against Dabura (which it doesn't look like he was) than I don't see the meaning for this.