Piccolo v Base Saiyans (Boo Saga)

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Base Saiyans being stronger than Piccolo is slim to none.

Piccolo managed to fare better against the Cell Jr's than a fatigued SSJ Goku did. Not only that, but the Kids aren't that far weaker than the Adults, and the Kids were only around 18's power in Base. Piccolo wasn't around when Vegeta made the statement that he would win in Base.
 

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SuperSaiyan2 said:
Yeah, agreed.

But it always makes me wonder, what were Dabra/Babidi sensing in the Base Saiyans then?

Clearly not their SSJ power as they sent out Pocus to battle.
They likely didn't sense the way any other Ki sensors sense since we are shown they cannot sense Ki in that manner. They likely used magic to divine their strength but didn't know the true depths of their power
 

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Uchiha said:
Mike said:
Piccolo was not around when Vegeta said he'd still hold the advantage in base.
But he didn't change his demeanor when it was revealed Piccolo was joining. He really wanted to fight Goku and Piccolo would have stood in his way.

I think this is a good point. I don't know if I buy supreme Kai>piccolo which means base goku and vegeta>Piccolo

but if vegeta doesn't think piccolo would stand in his way of fighting carrot cake then I'm gonna go with base vegeta>piccolo
 

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Does anyone really believe Vegeta wouldn't turn Super Saiyan if Piccolo was potentially in his way?
 

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Did Goku know about the prohibition of Super Saiyan? I don't remember anybody bringing it up to him.
 

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Evil Vegeta said:
Does anyone really believe Vegeta wouldn't turn Super Saiyan if Piccolo was potentially in his way?
Sounds like conjecture
 

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Kamikaze Pyro said:
Did Goku know about the prohibition of Super Saiyan? I don't remember anybody bringing it up to him.
He didn't know. He was surprise that Goten and Trunks turn into SSJ and he was not mad at them unlike Gohan.
 

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Interesting. So we can figure Goku would've gone Super Saiyan if he needed to, and then Vegeta would've thrown out the rule because Kakarrot did it.
 

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I don't see how that brings any new information to the table.
 

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Uchiha said:
Evil Vegeta said:
Does anyone really believe Vegeta wouldn't turn Super Saiyan if Piccolo was potentially in his way?
Sounds like conjecture

Vegeta saying he'll beat everyone (including Goku, who he hasn't seen for 7 yrs) isn't exactly proof of anything, either.
 

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You can say Vegeta beating Goku is conjecture but he knows everyone else's power, so the rest would still stand.
 

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Gohan proposed the rule to not become SSJ in the tournament and he knew Piccolo would participate. Why he proposed this rule if he knew the Saiyans would have no chance against Piccolo or # 18?
 

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Because he could win prize money in 2nd, 3rd, 4th, or 5th place.
 

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Pft. Like piccolo would keep the mula anyway.
 

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I find it funny how likely that is. Since vegeta being the next guy wouldnt really care for it.
 

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