Recent Chapter Discussion

[SSJ2]

Seems like 2-3 a month for the last while.

 

[SSJ2]

Wtf is Black Maria's devil fruit?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Enel being shown on a cover page. So, uh Oda, when are you going to stop teasing him and actually have him make major contributions to the plot?

Marco casually dodged an attack from an angry Zoro. Guess that helps solidify the limit to how strong Base Zoro currently is. On the subject of strength, we have Franky Shogun clashing evenly with Sasaki. Either the Shogun's far stronger than we give credit or this guy's easily the weak link of the Flying Six. Also, Sasaki says "Dinosaurs are the strongest creatures to have ever lived." Uh, you do remember that you're serving a guy famed as the stongest creature who's not a dinosaur and that Oars is common knowledge to you, you know, a giant far bigger and likely stronger than Dory and Broggy who can easily kill the dinosaurs on Little Garden? Not only is Sasaki probably the weakest of the Flying Six, but he's clearly the one who's IQ's definitely in the single digits .

Simpji thinking 4/5 women with snake tongues and 1 with spider legs is Heaven. Remember back when Sanji actually had standards rather than simping for anything without a Y chromosome? Him reaching levels of thirst even Brock from the Pokemon anime could never conceive got old after Fishman Island and now it's even more of a degradation to his character than Yamcha being treat as a walking joke in Super .

Who's Who is surrounded by his Catwoman looking hoes. Well, I guess Oda calling one of Kaido's subordinates Batman really was intentional. Not sure how much of a big reveal Ace having once tried to kill Kaido is meant to be, considering the Yonko were really on peaceful terms (particularly Kaido who'd notably suffered a beating from Whitebeard in recent memory) and Ace was always aiming for huge targets before joining Whitebeard's crew anyway.

Wtf is Black Maria's devil fruit?

It's meant to be a Rosamygale Grauvogeli, a very small spider similar to modern tarantulas in terms of exterior and fangs that lived in the Lower Triassic era. Pretty strange Oda would choose that to go with the prehistoric theme of the Flying Six when the others are all animals larger than their modern counterparts when Rosamygale was only 1cm in height .

 

[Papasmurf]

So how bad will OP's historic 1000th chapter be at this rate?

 

[SSJ2]

Kaido is a fish

 

[Captain Cadaver]

The reveal of the Fish Fish Fruit was the most notable part of the chapter, and the whole idea is pretty mixed at best. Sure, it helps offer a counter for why the apparently suicidal Kaido didn't just jump in an ocean, but it also raises some huge questions without satisfying answers. If his supposed "dragon" form is actually a fish, how can he shoot fire breath and all such draconic abilities? The most sound answer would be the Dragon is his Awakened Zoan form and it's based on the Chinese legend of a Koi transforming into a dragon after leaping a waterfall, though it still seems like a stretch to make such an eastern myth the basis of a DF awakening when Kaido's dragon form incorporates abilities from western dragons into it too (fiery breath isn't something associated much with the aquatic dragons of China, Japan and Korea). Most of all, however, this just makes him too overpowered in a way that breaks the whole concept of Devil Fruits. If the whole point of Devil Fruits is that they remove the user's ability to swim, how would one that actively prevents that ability be possible (considering a fish on land would be a useless power without training and Big Mom heavily suggests Kaido survived by swimming away with it)? All just seems like Oda's poor attempt at subverting expectations.

Only other part worth mentioning is Ace and Yamato fighting evenly. I'm not sure it'd say much in terms of where either of them or characters comparable to them stand though when it was made apparent to be a few years before the start of the manga.

So how bad will OP's historic 1000th chapter be at this rate?

Still nowhere near as bad as most of the Moro Arc of Super (though nowhere near as entertaining to read as entertainment), but still probably on par with the level of "quality" of Naruto's chapters in the last arc. Could potentially reach Super tier depending on what explanations it offers for Kaido's DF though .

 

[SSJ2]

Kaido is literally a Magikarp.

 

[sei'taer]

Kaido is literally a Magikarp.

Came here to say this.

Still find it hilarious some people are still reading a series they clearly do not like.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

I still find it hilarious your view on what people derive entertainment from is still so simplistic. Schlock entertainment that's clearly not good is a very common thing (some films and series being made purely to cash in on this) and, especially for those with aspirations or interest in the creative process, analysing the writing quality of a bad work is often a source of entertainment as well as informative in not allowing them to repeat the same pitfalls. Moreover, there's also the possibility of events getting better later on when it's apparent Oda's writing capability wasn't always as flawed as it is now and, if that were the case, it'd be far more of an effort to drop the series and have to read through several hundred chapters to get to the good stuff due to having not done the very easy task of simply keeping up to date once a week when having already caught up.

 

[SSJ2]

Why was chapter 1000 hyped so much

 

[Papasmurf]

I don't even read OP lol, I dropped it during the birdcage portion, skipped most of Fuckman Island and Punk Hazard and only read Doffy vs. Luffy to laugh at the asspull of Gear 4th and the incredibly convenient way he won. I haven't read anything since, lol. I'm not even sure I want to read anything but maybe the final battle, which will happen..... sometime in the year 2030

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Why was chapter 1000 hyped so much

Probably just because of the series reaching such a landmark, despite it not being as though other series haven't surpassed such a figure anyway.

Yeah, Chapter 1000 did the opposite of being something worth hyping up. Oden's journal predicting the future due to Toki's powers causes the series to become overly fatalistic with the future already being predetermined and leaving very few options for Oda to present the conflict without it feeling like an artificial one of destiny. Also, Luffy being able to knock Kaido on his ass with Gear 3rd (not even going Gear 4th straight away like he did to beat some fodder) despite Yamato being able to block his G3 attacks is some Super level scaling idiocy .

 

[SSJ2]

Nonsensical as that was, I don't think it's too terrible overall. His G3 was already able to pound Kaido's dragon fish form before training, so I'm not against it. I suppose the problem is in that he used G4 to deal with fodder before, though perhaps this Red Rock attack is stronger than Base G4? That would be the only way to make sense of it really.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

The Kaido he downed previously was a drunk and off-guard one though, and he tanked G4 Luffy's attacks without difficulty once he actually faced him in his base form.
Red Rock being that potent is a possibility, though still a pretty absurd choice when G4's strain is no longer much of a heavy factor to the point using G3 for someone it definitely won't be enough to take down is pretty irrelevant. If he has managed to further himself that much through training, it also shows how much of a cheap plot hax the Ryuo training really is, so still pretty bad writing regardless.

 

[SSJ2]

Yea no doubt. The whole training thing was done so poorly. He gets his ass handed to him by Kaido, is spared because Kaido is a clown, and then performs basic training while imprisoned and becomes multiple times stronger? So cheap. Would have much rather seen Luffy get trained in the Advanced Haki by someone like Scopper Gaban perhaps, but nah, he learns it from some random mafia guy who has shrunk to 1/4th of his past size and was on the verge of death. Hilarious.

 

[Symbiote]

The chapter wasn’t bad, just too much talking.

 

[SSJ2]

I was expecting a bigger reveal. The dialogue from Oden's logs was already covered during Oden's flashback. Disappointing.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Not much to talk about with 1001 without repeating things like Luffy's hax gains or he, Law and Kid's rivalry being milked to the point of stupidity in not dodging Kaido's attack because of arguing. The one interesting part of the chapter though was the silhouettes after Kaido talks about those who can fight against him as the one on the bottom left is very difficult to identify. It kind of looks like Dragon, but lacks the tattoos. Rocks D. Xebec, maybe? The dark, wavy hair seems a slight match, even if this version is far more refined.

 

[SSJ2]

Yea, I think it was a more detailed version of Rocks.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Also a bit odd that Linlin wasn't included in those silhouettes. Probably due to her being present, though I wouldn't say that alone should remove her. Perhaps confirmation that Magikarp Kaido > Linlin? Assuming it was due to the focus being on how high Luffy's peak could be doesn't really work either when Shanks is still alive and capable of potentially getting stronger rather than having undoubtedly peaked.