Recent Chapter Discussion

[Jiren the Gray]

Goku is still a genius,in terms of battling

And still doesn't know what sex is.

Anyway, what do you guys think about this poster?

I'm sure he knows what sex is, since he had 2 kids or unless gohan dad is actually Yamcha 2 That's not a poster, that's vol 3 and it looks ok I guess,I would have preferred to see black and zamasu in the cover

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Goku is still a genius,in terms of battling

And still doesn't know what sex is.

Anyway, what do you guys think about this poster?

Spoiler

I'm sure he knows what sex is, since he had 2 kids or unless gohan dad is actually Yamcha 2 That's not a poster, that's vol 3 and it looks ok I guess,I would have preferred to see black and zamasu in the cover

If he doesn't know how to kiss then what makes you think he knows what sex is? 2

 

[Jiren the Gray]

And still doesn't know what sex is.

Anyway, what do you guys think about this poster?

Spoiler

I'm sure he knows what sex is, since he had 2 kids or unless gohan dad is actually Yamcha 2 That's not a poster, that's vol 3 and it looks ok I guess,I would have preferred to see black and zamasu in the cover

If he doesn't know how to kiss then what makes you think he knows what sex is? 2

uhhhhhhhhh, Hey look cool image I found related to DBS volume 3

 

[Void]

I like the first one.

 

[Pocket-Gog~]

Agreed, everyone and including their moms jump into the conclusion that Toyotaro gone insane lol. I swear if Goku transformed into SSjin against Freeza in these times, everyone would lose their shit and call SSjin as an asspull power up even though there's an explanation of it.

There was build up to Super Saiyan, we knew it was a thing, we knew Goku was going to get it. It didn't contradict the whole entire fucking arc before it. This Mastered Super Saiyan Blue nonsense is a complete and utter asspull in every sense of the word.

 

[Papasmurf]

The fact that Goku has never so much as tested this fucking thing and that he had it all along while Vegeta couldn't achieve it after training for a fucking year longer than Goku (and having better mastery over Blue's transformation strain) makes it horseshit

 

[xenos5]

I can hardly believe the lengths some people will go to, to defend the absolute garbage that has happened with the manga

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Agreed, everyone and including their moms jump into the conclusion that Toyotaro gone insane lol. I swear if Goku transformed into SSjin against Freeza in these times, everyone would lose their shit and call SSjin as an asspull power up even though there's an explanation of it.

There was build up to Super Saiyan, we knew it was a thing, we knew Goku was going to get it. It didn't contradict the whole entire fucking arc before it. This Mastered Super Saiyan Blue nonsense is a complete and utter asspull in every sense of the word.

It doesn't matter, as long as the transformation is explained then there's no problem at all. I agree it was out of nowhere but it was explained unlike Trunks's SSR that came out of nowhere without explanation.

 

[Pocket-Gog~]

It doesn't matter, as long as the transformation is explained then there's no problem at all. I agree it was out of nowhere but it was explained unlike Trunks's SSR that came out of nowhere without explanation.

So, a lazy form that contradicts everything previously stated in the arc, is an asspull in every sense of the word, also lowers the quality of the arc significantly, and destroys all tension before hand is good because it was explained....

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

It doesn't matter, as long as the transformation is explained then there's no problem at all. I agree it was out of nowhere but it was explained unlike Trunks's SSR that came out of nowhere without explanation.

So, a lazy form that contradicts everything previously stated in the arc, is an asspull in every sense of the word, also lowers the quality of the arc significantly, and destroys all tension before hand is good because it was explained....

What are the contradictions from the previous arc? Vegeta already explained that MSSjinB is extremely risky kinda like how KK10x in the anime hence why Goku didn't bother using it or mastering it.

 

[Pocket-Gog~]

What are the contradictions from the previous arc? Vegeta already explained that MSSjinB is extremely risky kinda like how KK10x in the anime hence why Goku didn't bother using it or mastering it.

There isn't any contradictions from the previous arc, there's just a fuck ton of contradictions from this arc, and lets get that whole entire page up, curtsy of Pyro.
There isn't any argument to be had here.

Spoiler

It contradicts basically everything since Trunks and Goku sparred.

Ch. 15, pg. 37.2.-4
Context: As Trunks recovers from sparring
Goku: “You surprised me!!! I can’t believe you managed to get this far on your own!!”
Trunks: “Ah, well… Even still, it was nothing against Black…”
Goku: “I thought it would be a piece of cake, but I guess we’re in trouble…”

Not only did this imply someone that could stomp Trunks was "trouble" for Goku and Vegeta, it now looks like a lie.

Ch. 20, pg. 19.4
Context: after Goku Black transforms into Super Saiyan Rose
Goku: “Vegeta. Maybe we should actually start working together now?”
Vegeta: “Don’t mess with me. You go take care of the other one! This isn’t gonna get anywhere if he keeps reviving and powering up.”

Lie.

Ch. 20, pg. 30.1
Context: after Vegeta’s been defeated
Trunks: “Goku! We must retreat! If this keeps going, we’re all gonna die!”

Nonsense.

Ch. 23, pg. 29.4
Context: after Goku is knocked into a building
Goku: “I’ve got no power left…”

Masochist.

Ch. 22, pg. 35.1-2
Context: Goku has just turned Super Saiyan God
Trunks: “What?! You’re also gonna use Super Saiyan God?”
Goku: “I lost quite a lot of energy using the Mafuba. Going Blue right now won’t work for long. Well, for you, I guess this is more than enough.”
Note: He’s talking to Zamasu at the end there.

We knew this was a lie from the moment Goku went to fight Merged Zamasu.

Ch. 23, pg. 25.5
Context: after Goku is hit by a Klangite cube
Zamasu: “Those are Klangite -- the hardest known material in the universe. Can you not even hold your own against mere objects?”

Ch. 23, pg. 26.2
Subject: Goku
Trunks: “At this rate, he’s most likely going to lose…”

Ch. 23, pg. 26.3
Subject: Goku
Gowasu: “If he could only make his stand for one more hour… However, as far as I can see, that might be beyond all hope…”

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

What are the contradictions from the previous arc? Vegeta already explained that MSSjinB is extremely risky kinda like how KK10x in the anime hence why Goku didn't bother using it or mastering it.

There isn't any contradictions from the previous arc, there's just a fuck ton of contradictions from this arc, and lets get that whole entire page up, curtsy of Pyro.
There isn't any argument to be had here.

Spoiler

It contradicts basically everything since Trunks and Goku sparred.

Ch. 15, pg. 37.2.-4
Context: As Trunks recovers from sparring
Goku: “You surprised me!!! I can’t believe you managed to get this far on your own!!”
Trunks: “Ah, well… Even still, it was nothing against Black…”
Goku: “I thought it would be a piece of cake, but I guess we’re in trouble…”

Not only did this imply someone that could stomp Trunks was "trouble" for Goku and Vegeta, it now looks like a lie.

Ch. 20, pg. 19.4
Context: after Goku Black transforms into Super Saiyan Rose
Goku: “Vegeta. Maybe we should actually start working together now?”
Vegeta: “Don’t mess with me. You go take care of the other one! This isn’t gonna get anywhere if he keeps reviving and powering up.”

Lie.

Ch. 20, pg. 30.1
Context: after Vegeta’s been defeated
Trunks: “Goku! We must retreat! If this keeps going, we’re all gonna die!”

Nonsense.

Ch. 23, pg. 29.4
Context: after Goku is knocked into a building
Goku: “I’ve got no power left…”

Masochist.

Ch. 22, pg. 35.1-2
Context: Goku has just turned Super Saiyan God
Trunks: “What?! You’re also gonna use Super Saiyan God?”
Goku: “I lost quite a lot of energy using the Mafuba. Going Blue right now won’t work for long. Well, for you, I guess this is more than enough.”
Note: He’s talking to Zamasu at the end there.

We knew this was a lie from the moment Goku went to fight Merged Zamasu.

Ch. 23, pg. 25.5
Context: after Goku is hit by a Klangite cube
Zamasu: “Those are Klangite -- the hardest known material in the universe. Can you not even hold your own against mere objects?”

Ch. 23, pg. 26.2
Subject: Goku
Trunks: “At this rate, he’s most likely going to lose…”

Ch. 23, pg. 26.3
Subject: Goku
Gowasu: “If he could only make his stand for one more hour… However, as far as I can see, that might be beyond all hope…”

Same thing happened on Boo arc, Goku lied to Piccolo, Goten and Trunks about his ability to beat Fat Boo which turned out to be false since he can finished him with his SSjin3. He also told Gohan that none can stop him [enrage SSjin2 Gohan] not even Goku, but we all know how it turned out.

 

[Pocket-Gog~]

Same thing happened on Boo arc, Goku lied to Piccolo, Goten and Trunks about his ability to beat Fat Boo which turned out to be false since he can finished him with his SSjin3. He also told Gohan that none can stop him [enrage SSjin2 Gohan] not even Goku, but we all know how it turned out.

SSJ3 in on itself is a titanic asspull that completely contradicts Goku's motivations before hand. It's not a good thing using that as an excuse. Even then the power of SSJ3 was retconned in on itself as well.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Same thing happened on Boo arc, Goku lied to Piccolo, Goten and Trunks about his ability to beat Fat Boo which turned out to be false since he can finished him with his SSjin3. He also told Gohan that none can stop him [enrage SSjin2 Gohan] not even Goku, but we all know how it turned out.

SSJ3 in on itself is a titanic asspull that completely contradicts Goku's motivations before hand. It's not a good thing using that as an excuse. Even then the power of SSJ3 was retconned in on itself as well.

And Goku lied about his MSSjinB because he can't handle it, what is wrong with that? It's like how Goku knew about ASSjin form in 3 years of training but decided not to master it since he doesn't need it. Same thing thing here.

 

[Pocket-Gog~]

And Goku lied about his MSSjinB because he can't handle it, what is wrong with that? It's like how Goku knew about ASSjin form in 3 years of training but decided not to master it since he doesn't need it. Same thing thing here.

Because the form was not once mentioned, implied, shown or even in a throw away line. It's an asspull that contradicts everything shown and stated in the arc before hand. Such a big plot element like it has to be shown or implied otherwise it is simply shitty writing. Even then Goku fucking showed that he knew how to use ASSjin in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber, and no it wasn't during his three years of training. He discovered it in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

And Goku lied about his MSSjinB because he can't handle it, what is wrong with that? It's like how Goku knew about ASSjin form in 3 years of training but decided not to master it since he doesn't need it. Same thing thing here.

Because the form was not once mentioned, implied, shown or even in a throw away line. It's an asspull that contradicts everything shown and stated in the arc before hand. Such a big plot element like it has to be shown or implied otherwise it is simply shitty writing. Even then Goku fucking showed that he knew how to use ASSjin in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber, and no it wasn't during his three years of training. He discovered it in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber.

ASSjin came out of nowhere as well. Both he and Vegeta knew that form existed but didn't bother to learn it because they don't need it. They have an excuse on why they didn't learned it. And no, Goku knew the existence of that form and he just learned how to transform into that form in the ROSAT.

 

[Pocket-Gog~]

ASSjin came out of nowhere as well. Both he and Vegeta knew that form existed but didn't bother to learn it because they don't need it. They have an excuse on why they didn't learned it. And no, Goku knew the existence of that form and he just learned how to transform into that form in the ROSAT.

ASSjin was outright implied by all of the Saiyans who had Super Saiyan when they all went lets go and break through the Super Saiyan wall. It was a consistent theme and element of the Cell and Android Saga, breaking through the wall of Super Saiyan. No, Goku figured out how to transform into ASSjin and he showed it off to Gohan.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

The manga really sucks in terms of entertainment and characters development but its very consistent.

...

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Yes it is.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Yes it is.

No, it's not. Manga had much more character-development and Goku isn't as weird in the manga. Also much more entwrtaining because you know some of the characters aren't as annoying.